I for one think this is great. I would love to see what you've done, implement the web-services on my own system (I was just about to start writing them for my current project) and help whenever I can.
A. No, I'm not coming near you with any sort of pyrotechnic device. B. No, I don't know WebServices better than you do. C. Yes, I can help plan. D. No, I don't know XUL. At all. E. Yes, you are absolutely crazy. But I'm excited about what you've done. -- Ryan On Fri, 2003-10-10 at 19:18, Charles James McAuley wrote: > hey all, > Thought I would put this thought out here. > After setting up dbmail on one system as a means of simply handling > multiple domains for users that didn't need a login in the system itself, > I got to thinking. "hmmmm self, dbmail and exchange both keep email in a > database isn't that funny?" > > "yes", I said to myself "it is. I wonder whats keeping them from > expanding out into, oh I don't know, group address books and group > scheduling, basically like exchange does it." > > "Ah, but your forgetting that there is no real good standard that covers > those basis. You are right in your thinking that exchange sucks, and is > very annoying, but it does have the MAPI protocol, making things somewhat > easy." > > "arggh, but its so crap, isn't it? I mean, since MAPI is so ugly and > closed, there aren't many affordable flexible clients for it. Really, all > you've got is exchange. Think about the current customer you are dealing > with which simply wanted their email on their blackberrys too. They had > to download even more expensive software to integrate their blackberrys > into exchange." > > "Self", I said "think a little harder. Why, didn't you just write a demo > using webservices using coldfusion, java midlets, flash, php, and good ol' > fashioned html?" > > "Why, yes I did. And damn was that easier than I was expecting. Ahhh, I > see where you going with this. Take those PHP skills I got, learn SOAP a > little better, and slap on a webservice interface, create a little schema, > and Bob's your uncle." > > "and then you could create thin clients all over the place!" > > "exactly...." > > "but, what would you make your first client out of? What would be the > best way?" > > "Well, you've been meaning to learn XUl and all that stuff, haven't you." > > "why, yes" > > "So create a mozilla app as your outlook beater" > > "awesome idea chuck, your so smart" > > "why, thanks chuck" > > > So this is the story. I've written a small limited set of webservice > frontend for dbmail. I've also written a small, rather capable mozilla > frontend for it. This project incorporates all kinds of elements, and it > would be gunning for a sort of "exchange in a box" kind of design. The > distributed elements sort of have to make so. > > The webservices work as far as I have tested them, and the XUL frontend is > capable of recieving and sending email, as well as handling folders and > whatnot. I've also sketched out on paper a global address book schema > that fits into dbmail 1.1 design. > I'm looking for people who can > A) light a fire up my ass to make this happen > B) understand webservices better (and can help me fill in the gaps of my > own knowledge especially when dealing with nuSOAP and WSDL) > C) Can help me lay out a plan for developing something like this which is > so dependent on other technologies (dbmail-smtp, MTA's, php, myauth for > apache, and hopefully clients written in numerous other languages). > D) Have a fuller grasp of the capabilities of XUL. Currently I got stuck > on drag and drop and gave up the ghost in favour of other projects. The > main problem, for anyone who follows XUL, is that I want to make the > client be downloaded/run from the web browser, instead of packaging and > deploying. Which would make upgrading clients very easy (just replace > these files in this dir....). > E) Wondering if I'm absolutely crazy, and if so, to tell me. I don't like > HTML/webserver apps that pull off these kinds of things. response time is > too slow, and the implementation is kind of poor. > > So there it is, am I crazy or not? > > (note: I subscribe in digest form, so replies, if any, might be slow) > feel free to ask about design details or anything else. > > -chuck > -------------------- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.lemure.net > all that tasty chuck fun, without the nasty aftertaste > > _______________________________________________ > Dbmail mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman.fastxs.nl/mailman/listinfo/dbmail >
