M. J. [Mike] OBrien wrote:

ACL-friendly = almost Everything but OE

Ain't that the truth. Seeing the ACLs and subscribing is one thing, managing the ACLs is another.

The user :: foldername option is normally done by the MUA but can be done by DbMailAdministrator so think a little from the users shoes when building such a shared regime. You start by giving the user High Priviledges and then they take over admin is best approach. System accounts and quasi user accounts sharing folders with real people like putting your SpamAssassin outcasts or system monitor alerts into a postmaster folder shared to 'Billy Williams' and 'Joe Bloe' is a good example of where global admin might start sharing specific user folders for warm bodies to examine and work on.

I understand the logic but it took time to figure out how to do the obvious... I fumbled with some web clients and found one that showed the #Users folders. After subscribing I could then see them in T-Bird. If I unsubscribe from Tbird I couldn't see them to sub again. Subscribe once again from the web client and bingo there they were again. Strange but if that does the job.. Maybe T-bird has command line tools for this, certainly not in the GUI.

As far as managing a user's own shared folders I still don't see a way to do it in T-bird. It shows me that I have Full rights and that it is shared but there are no options to do anything with it. Looking at the Mozilla forums I see a dev pointing that out as a missing feature. So when people tell me how easy it is to manage the shares from Tbird I'm wondering who is juxtaposing their logic. :)

I just created ACL for #Public :: folder using DbMailAdministrator on 2.1.6+Trunk and Thunderbird polled it in a flash.

the #Public :: folder regime is always administered by the postmaster although users can turn down the option to subscribe. I see most MUAs will subscribe #Public as a default.

#Public folders are a snap. All my MUAs can deal with them no problem. It is the #User folders that are a pain. Luckily this is for a small office and I can setup what they need the hard way.

Pretty common. Shared folders work fantasticly well in DBMail and you should have no problem. Getting OE to work is a serious pain. If users have Office/Outlook it is very good w/IMAP but the Mozilla full package (incl News and Mail) (as Netscape once was) is fine solution for overall web and mail. Tbird+FireFox (nee Firebird) is also good.

My clients won't even be considering OE. And I disagree about OE's IMAP capability. I think it is the worst IMAP client I've looked at. Ask any admin that looks at maillogs. It works but is far from standards compliant. After all these years it has the same bugs since day one. Not a problem since I wouldn't use OE for any reason.

Thanks!

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