I don't see a down side to a shared L2 cache for big SMP boxes?
Given that anything running on that many cores (ie dbmail) is probably going to have a bunch of processes/threads that are all basically identical only keeping one copy of the data floating around seems to be an advantage, you can then fit more data into your (bigger) l2 cache.

Vladimir Likhachev wrote:
If it`s INTEL Quad-Core processors, cores are not independent. Includes 2 core pairs, each pair using common level 2 cache - good for Windows desktop applications only, I think.
It`s a common view only, not detailed analyse.
Moreover, Em64T Intel tehnology is a strange one, if more then 4 GB RAM installed.
Oracle (current owner of MySQL AB) suggests AMD64 processors.
 
Forgive me poor English and possible oftopic, please...   








Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:46:55 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Dbmail] Query to show mailbox folders running slow


It turns out the problem is related to a well documented issue with mulit-core processors and MySQL running INNODB.  We had to drop the thread concurrency to 1 in MySQL to get our load tests to finish properly.  The low thread concurrency unfortunately causes issues when it comes to syncing off our existing system onto the new dbmail system; our times went from 8 hrs to over 15 hrs using IMAPSYNC.  Through some trial and error, we determined that for optimal syncing, thread concurrency needs to be set at 5 and for standard use thread concurrency needs to be set to 1.

Here are some links documenting the Multi-Core Innodb MySQL issue.

http://www.bigdbahead.com/?p=59

http://mysqlguy.net/blog/2008/07/16/innodb-multi-core-performance

http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=2772&p=9

Unfortunately we didn't know this when we bought our 4XQuad-Core Server (16 cores).

Thanks,

Rob

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Paul J Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My guess is this is a table-locking issue, something you can easily determine by
looking at mytop or 'mysqladmin processlist' during the slowdown. I can not
comment on your parameters since I don't know what kind of resources the mysql
server has.

David Suehring wrote:
> Hey everybody,
>
> We are running into a few issues when running some load tests on dbmail.
> As we are running the test, I've noticed that the following query goes
> from running nearly instantly, to taking anywhere from 10-20 seconds:
>
> SELECT distinct(mbx.name <http://mbx.name>), mbx.mailbox_idnr,
> mbx.owner_idnr FROM dbmail_mailboxes mbx LEFT JOIN dbmail_acl acl ON
> mbx.mailbox_idnr = acl.mailbox_id
> LEFT JOIN dbmail_users usr ON acl.user_id = usr.user_idnr WHERE
> ((mbx.owner_idnr = 2676) OR (acl.user_id = 2676 AND   acl.lookup_flag =
> 1) OR (usr.userid = 'anyone' AND acl.lookup_flag = 1))
>
> As far as our setup goes, we are using dbmail 2.2.10 with MySQL 5.0.26.
> <http://5.0.26.> Our dbmail_mailboxes table currently has about 47000
> rows, dbmail_users has about 4000 rows, and dbmail_acl has 0 rows. The
> load test we are doing uses a web interface to connect to dbmail, read a
> message, send a message, and repeat. When we simulate 10 users doing
> this, we do not see any performance issues. Once we increase to 20
> users, the query above begins to take longer and longer, reaching nearly
> 20 seconds in some situations. I realize that this is most likely a
> snowball effect, where once it hits a snag, the queries just pile up and
> become slower as a result. Does anyone have any configuration tips or
> thoughts on how to help speed this up and prevent the slowdown?
>
> Here is our my.cnf configuration:
>
> # The MySQL server
> [mysqld]
> port                            = 3306
> socket                          = /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
> max_connections                 = 200
> skip-locking
> key_buffer                      = 16M
> max_allowed_packet              = 8M
> table_cache                     = 1024
> sort_buffer_size                = 2M
> read_buffer_size                = 2M
> read_rnd_buffer_size            = 8M
> myisam_sort_buffer_size         = 8M
> thread_cache_size               = 16
> query_cache_size                = 128M
> query_cache_limit               = 2M
> long_query_time                 = 1
> tmpdir = /tmp
> datadir = /var/lib/mysql
> thread_concurrency = 16
>
> # InnoDB settings
> innodb_file_per_table
> innodb_data_home_dir            = /var/lib/mysql/
> innodb_data_file_path           = ibdata1:10M:autoextend
> innodb_log_group_home_dir       = /var/lib/mysql/
> innodb_log_arch_dir             = /var/lib/mysql/
> innodb_log_files_in_group       = 2
> innodb_buffer_pool_size         = 24576M
> innodb_additional_mem_pool_size = 20M
> innodb_log_file_size            = 512M
> innodb_log_buffer_size          = 16M
> innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit  = 1
> innodb_lock_wait_timeout        = 50
> innodb_thread_concurrency       = 8
>
> [mysqldump]
> quick
> max_allowed_packet = 16M
> [mysql]
> no-auto-rehash
> # Remove the next comment character if you are not familiar with SQL
> #safe-updates
> [isamchk]
> key_buffer              = 256M
> sort_buffer_size        = 256M
> read_buffer             = 2M
> write_buffer            = 2M
> [myisamchk]
> key_buffer              = 256M
> sort_buffer_size        = 256M
> read_buffer             = 2M
> write_buffer            = 2M
> [mysqlhotcopy]
> interactive-timeout
> If there is any other information that would be helpful, please let me
> know.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> -David
>
>
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