Georgi,

Ah...that makes sense!  I did a query to check for other articles with
the same issue, and it turned up quite a list -- probably too many to
make the manual change, but if that can be automated I think that would
be a big boost in the usefulness of the ontology (which, I think, is
VERY useful and helpful!  Thanks!)

Does this fall into the category you described in your blog post about
this of asking us to help maintain that ontology?  If so I'd be happy to
provide any help that I can on this issue, and would only ask for
guidance about what, exactly, I could do.

Thanks!
Patrick Murray-John
http://semantic.umwblogs.org

P.S.  uhoh!  seems like you might be confusing me with someone else! ;)

>>> "Georgi Kobilarov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/25/08 5:22 PM >>>
Hi Peter,

> Does this look like a bug, or something that was missed in the manual
> work that went into creating the ontology?

A bit of both :)

The Wikipedia article Ancient_Greek used the template:Language instead
of Template:Infobox_Language. Template:Language is a redirect to
Infobox_Language, so the article content displays correctly. We had no
automated approach to include template-redirects, and we only included
the most common template-redirects manually. And missed the
template:Language.

I've just simply changed the Wikipedia article Ancient_Greek to use
template:Infobox_Language now, so we will be fine with the next
extraction (will it be the next dataset release once there is a new
Wikipedia dump, or via live-update if we manage to implement that soon
:)

Best,
Georgi

PS: We should follow up on the conversation we had in London in March
about including your work with ChemBoxes into DBpedia...

--
Georgi Kobilarov
Freie Universität Berlin
www.georgikobilarov.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick Murray-John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:53 PM
> To: [email protected] >> DBpedia
> Subject: [Dbpedia-discussion] Missing Ancient Greek with type Language
> 
> I was exploring around today using the dbpedia-owl types for an app
> I'll
> be working on soon.  It will ask teachers to specify the languages
they
> teach by picking relevant wikipedia pages.  So far everything looks
> great, but when I did queries for Greek it looks like Ancient Greek
was
> missing:
> 
> PREFIX dbpedia-owl: <http://dbpedia.org/ontology/>
> PREFIX dbprop: <http://dbpedia.org/property/>
> PREFIX rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#>
> 
> SELECT DISTINCT ?lang ?fam
> WHERE
> {
> ?lang a dbpedia-owl:Language ;
>  rdfs:label ?name .
> 
> 
> OPTIONAL { ?lang dbprop:fam ?fam . }
> FILTER (REGEX (?name, 'greek', 'i') )
> 
> }
> 
> Gets me Modern_Greek, Cappadocian_Greek_Language , and Greek_Language,
> but not Ancient_Greek.  The dbpedia page
> http://dbpedia.org/page/Ancient_Greek shows that it uses the Language
> template box, but not that it got the Language type.
> 
> Does this look like a bug, or something that was missed in the manual
> work that went into creating the ontology?
> 
> Thanks much!
> 
> Patrick Murray-John
> http://semantic.umwblogs.org
> 
> 
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