I think, Kingsley didn't want to complain about the "viewable" front-end. I agree, that in an ideal web of data, consumer apps and front-end (could also be BBC or whatever) should include some kind of reference back to the Web of Data. These (hidden) backlinks can be done with <link rel="alternate">, content negotiation, RDFa, Turtle in HTML script part or plain links <href="http://dbpedia.org/resource/Stockholm";>view data source</a>.
Currently, the app is just a view/query interface over the data. With backlinks, it will be also an entry point. Ideally, some of these tools should fire, when looking at Alumnis: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/collections/gerald-schwarz/firefox-semantic-web-goodies/ It would be nice to see how this can be achieved in a light-weight manner. Seems difficult for: http://www.alumis.no/exec.php?text=for%20every%20m%20in%20german%20musicians%2C%20if%20m%20has%20a%20birth%20date%20and%201950%20%3C%3D%20m.birth%20date.year%20and%20m.birth%20date.year%20%3C%3D%201990%2C%20print%20line%20m%20%2B%20%22%20%28%22%20%2B%20m.born%20%2B%20%22%29%22 All the best, Sebastian Am 08.09.2012 22:39, schrieb Michael Douma: > Hi Kingsley, > > I've been on this list a short time, and I've seen several comments from > you about the "need" for projects that use dbpedia to do all this > interlinking with dbpedia, exposing, and whatnot. > > Can you please explain more about your thinking? > > It seems to me that there are many faces to open data. These range from > sharing data, to linking data, to using data. While I am an advocate of > open data, I'm also an advocate of broad use, and I think it would be > great for there to be more public-serving web sites that are a front-end > to dbpedia. Students and the general public who are using this > structured data certainly should not be forcefed the technical aspects. > ... and I don't think you necessarily intend that. > > Can you explain more about what you consider the ideal front end? > Specifically, imagine an end-user-focused web site or mobile app. Are > you resistant to pure browsers which never expose any actual links to data? > > Michael > > > Kingsley Idehen wrote: >> On 9/7/12 2:51 AM, Sebastian Hellmann wrote: >>> Hello Emil, >>> nice, could you register in the Wiki and add your tool under applications: >>> http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Applications >> I have a concern with this application, and I think we really need to be >> clear about this as a baseline for others, it takes DBpedia URIs out of >> scope on the following fronts: >> >> 1. Web page -- no use of @href and/or <link/> relationships to expose >> DBpedia data source URIs (which also doubles as fine-grained Attribution) >> 2. HTTP responses -- if for whatever reasons #1 isn't possible then >> "Link:" response headers also do the trick. >> >> Linked Data isn't about pretty Web pages, its about human and/or machine >> accessibility to fine-grained and webby structured data via >> de-referencable URIs. This aspect of the mission is sacrosanct, and we >> all have to do a better job of making this clear to those that are new >> to the project. >> >> To keep URIs out of scope is to inadvertently break the Web of Linked >> Data for which DBpedia remains crucial. >> >> Kingsley >>> Thanks, >>> Sebastian >>> >>> Am 07.09.2012 01:35, schrieb Emil Müller: >>>> Hello DBpedia. >>>> >>>> I have developed a new interface to DBpedia. Instead of accessing data >>>> through SPARQL, it revolves around a new object-oriented programming >>>> language that should be familiar to most programmers. Feature-wise it is >>>> similar to Python. You can even ask it questions. If anybody is interested, >>>> seehttp://alumis.dnsd.info/. I'd love some feedback. Currently runs off an >>>> old 32-bit computer with 4 Gb of memory, so please be nice with it :) >>>> Database is limited. >>>> >>>> Emil Muller >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>>> threats.http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Dbpedia-discussion mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion >>> >>> -- >>> Dipl. Inf. Sebastian Hellmann >>> Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig >>> Events: >>> *http://sabre2012.infai.org/mlode (Leipzig, Sept. 23-24-25, 2012) >>> *http://wole2012.eurecom.fr (*Deadline: July 31st 2012*) >>> Projects:http://nlp2rdf.org ,http://dbpedia.org >>> Homepage:http://bis.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/SebastianHellmann >>> Research Group:http://aksw.org >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Live Security Virtual Conference >>> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >>> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions >>> will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware >>> threats.http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Dbpedia-discussion mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dbpedia-discussion >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> >> Kingsley Idehen >> Founder& CEO >> OpenLink Software >> Company Web:http://www.openlinksw.com >> Personal Weblog:http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen >> Google+ Profile:https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about >> LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Live Security Virtual Conference >> Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and >> threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. 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