Hi Andrea,

I don't want any specific action from you, just use the above comments and
review your edits so far.
I am sure that most of them are already in the right direction

Just note that if you move a page, you'll have to delete the created
redirection, otherwise they will exist both in the ontology

please see inline for your questions


On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Andrea Di Menna <ninn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Dimitris,
>
> thank you very much for your email.
> I appreciate your guidance in the process, and I would really like to
> give my contribution to the dbpedia project which I found amazing.
>
> I have been browsing the dbpedia ontology for a while before applying
> changes, trying to find patterns to use to map missing infoboxes.
> Hence I apologize if some of the changes do not conform  to the
> requested quality level, nothing was done on purpose to provide bad
> data.
>
> I have to admit sometimes I did not write any rdfs:comment if the
> mapping was straightforward to me.
>
> Anyway to answer your questions:
>
> ------
>
> [D]: For instance, the new class JapaneseRailwayStation could be
> served from RailwayStation unless there exists so many railway
> stations in Japan that can justify its existence. Even so, we could
> conclude the location of a railway station from other location like
> properties ( country, region).
>
> [A]: You're perfectly right. Should I add a constant mapping like this?
>
> {{ConstantMapping
> | ontologyProperty = country
> | value = Japan
> }}
>
> and change the mapToClass to RailwayStation ?

sounds  better :)
>
>
> ------
>
> [D]: You introduced Gymnast (which is an ancient greek word for coach)
> and Volleyball coach on the same level. Although I am Greek, I'd
> choose coach for naming :) and place volleyballCoach as a subclass (or
> maybe stick with just coach)
>
> [A]: A gymnast is one who performs gymnastics (for example [1]). So it
> is different from a coach.
> I did not add a Coach class as I saw for example there existed a
> SoccerManager class which is a direct subClassOf Person.
> Do you need me to change anything here?
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Chechi

Then place this information in the comments. About the coach class you can
choose whatever you think more appropriate

>
>
> ------
>
> [D]: You introduced a lot of soccer and football classes without any
> comments, I guess you know the difference between soccer and football
> in Europe and US
>
> [A]: You are right :) And yes I know the difference between soccer and
> football...I am Italian, I should know for sure ;)
>
> Anyway I have added/modified the following classes:
>
> Created NationalFootballLeagueSeason -> to map "Infobox NFL season"
> (the american football league)
> Modified SoccerLeagueSeason -> to make it a subClassOf
> SportsTeamSeason instead of SoccerLeague (which was wrong to me)
> Created FootballLeagueSeason -> to make it a superclass of
> NationalFootballLeagueSeason
>
> Do you need me to change anything here?

If you think that this model is better than the previous then it is fine by
me :)

>
>
> ------
>
> [D]: You also made a lot of range/domain changes without explaining
> anything on the change log / talk pages
>
> [A]: Changes I have done in the OntologyProperty domain
>
> == The original properties were mispelled ==
> OntologyProperty:SoccerLeagueWinner ‎ (moved
> OntologyProperty:SoocerLeagueWinner to
> OntologyProperty:SoccerLeagueWinner) (top)
> OntologyProperty:SoccerLeagueSeason ‎ (moved
> OntologyProperty:SoocerLeagueSeason to
> OntologyProperty:SoccerLeagueSeason) (top)
> OntologyProperty:SoccerLeagueRelegated ‎ (moved
> OntologyProperty:SoocerLeagueRelegated to
> OntologyProperty:SoccerLeagueRelegated) (top)
> OntologyProperty:SoccerLeaguePromoted ‎ (moved
> OntologyProperty:SoocerLeaguePromoted to
> OntologyProperty:SoccerLeaguePromoted) (top)
>
> == Comment in the changelog ==
> OntologyProperty:SignificantProject ‎ (Changing rdfs:domain to support
> using this property with Engineer class) (top)
> OntologyProperty:Honours ‎ (Extending to Agent since this can refer to
> individuals as well) (top)
> OntologyProperty:Wins ‎ (Extending to Athlete) (top)
> OntologyProperty:FirstPublicationDate ‎ (Extending to WrittenWork) (top)
> OntologyProperty:NumberOfVolumes ‎ (Extending to WrittenWork) (top)
>
> The other properties were added to map new templateProperties since I
> could not find other existing ontologyProperties that could fit there.
>
> Do you need me to change anything here?

just search for a similar name before you create a new property

>
>
> ------
>
> [D]: I didn;t look much into the new properties but a few catchy ones
> I spotted are the new Mass* properties
>
> [A]: It was not me adding those properties :) [see the log below]
> Also, as far as I could read datatype properties are feeded into
> dbpedia at the moment since they are hardcoded. Is that correct?
>
> (diff) (hist) . . Datatype:Mass‎; 01:26 . . (+41) . . Teosavv (Talk |
contribs)
> (diff) (hist) . . Datatype:LinearMassDensity‎; 01:25 . . (+94) . .
> Teosavv (Talk | contribs)

Sorry, my mistake :)

>
> Again, thanks a lot for spending some time checking my changes as for
> sure there is something which can be corrected and made better.

Maintaining the Ontology is a team work and you just became a member,
welcome ;)

> I will add some comments to my changes (as minor changes probably).
>
> I would like to ask a question regarding redirected infoboxes and
> dbpedia mappings:
>
> Suppose I have infoboxes A and B, and A redirects to B.
> Suppose I add a mapping for B.
> When I test the extraction on Mapping_en:B, wikipedia articles which
> are directly using A do not get properties extracted as I am expecting
> (from B mapping).
> How is that supposed to work?

Always use the redirected one ...
 How to map a Wikipedia Template

   - Get the encoded template page name from Wikipedia. Make sure that the
   template is no redirect page.
      - *Example*: For the Wikipedia template Infobox musical
artist<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_musical_artist>use
      Infobox_musical_artist.

Cheers,

Dimitris

>
>
> Thanks again Dimitris, and keep up the good work as dbpedia rocks!
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
> 2012/12/24 Dimitris Kontokostas <kontokos...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de>:
> > ology does not aim to be an ontology for everything and before we
introduce
> > a new class/property we try to find if the same functionality can be
served
> > from existing ones.
>

-- 
Dimitris Kontokostas
Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig
Research Group: http://aksw.org
Homepage:http://aksw.org/DimitrisKontokostas
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