On 3/4/13 12:27 AM, Arun Chippada wrote:
Hi Kingsley,

Just wanted to get clarification if it is expected that the two endpoints (http://live.dbpedia.org/sparql and http://dbpedia-live.openlinksw.com/sparql <http://live.dbpedia.org/sparql%20and%20http://dbpedia-live.openlinksw.com/sparql>) do not always return the same set of triples for the same sparql query, for example, on a query such as

CONSTRUCT {?s ?p ?o} WHERE { ?s ?p ?o. FILTER(?s = <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Silver_Linings_Playbook>) }

Or is this an issue with the http://live.dbpedia.org/sparql <http://live.dbpedia.org/sparql%20> endpoint that some of the expected properties are missing?

No idea.

Our endpoint isn't a 100% replica of live.dbpedia.org/sparql. They have Virtuoso as the underlying platform in common. Beyond that, there are subtle differences of the kind you are experiencing right now.

Kingsley

Thanks
Arun



No.

They are variants of the same thing, but clearly not 100% the same.

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Subject: RE: [Dbpedia-discussion] how to test if extraction of triples on a wikipedia page is working correctly?
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 14:07:49 -0800

Thanks for your reply, Dimitris.

However, I was already using http://live.dbpedia.org. As I mentioned in my previous email, I found several cases where expected properties are missing, when querying using the live.dbpedia.org/sparql endpoint.

For example, below I listed a few cases, where the ontology property for director is missing from live.dbpedia.org

http://dbpedia.org/resource/Silver_Linings_Playbook
http://dbpedia.org/resource/Gardens_of_Stone <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Silver_Linings_Playbook>
http://dbpedia.org/resource/The_Terror_%281963_film%29

However, the other SPARQL endpoint listed for live.dbpedia - http://dbpedia-live.openlinksw.com/sparql, does return the ontology director property for the above resources. But my understanding is that the live.dbpedia.org/sparql endpoint is more recommended, as it is based on the new Java framework. Am I right?

Is there a reason why these properties are missing when querying using the live.dbpedia.org/sparql endpoint?

Thanks
Arun
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From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 09:18:05 +0200
Subject: Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] how to test if extraction of triples on a wikipedia page is working correctly?
To: [email protected]
CC: [email protected]

Hi Arun,

DBpedia has two 'modes' the static one, served from http://dbpedia.org and the live one served from http://live.dbpedia.org. Static DBpedia is updated once or twice a year with the latest update using data from May/June 2012 [1]

The article you are looking into is created last month [2] so it does not exists at all in static dbpedia You can use the live dbpedia for that (but there are some technical problems right now so try later)

For improving the framework you can use our online mapping wiki
http://mappings.dbpedia.org

Best,
Dimitris

[1] http://dbpedia.org/Downloads38
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Silver_Linings_Playbook&action=history


On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Arun Chippada <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi,

    I am seeing several cases where triples for a resource are missing
    when querying live.dbpedia.org <http://live.dbpedia.org>.

    For example,
    for <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Silver_Linings_Playbook>, the
    director property is missing (http://dbpedia.org/property/director
    or http://dbpedia.org/ontology/director), as observed from the
    results of the below sparql query

    CONSTRUCT {?s ?p ?o} WHERE { ?s ?p ?o. FILTER(?s =
    <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Silver_Linings_Playbook>) }

    However, I don't know the reason for the director property not
    being returned -
    1) is it because the director property was never extracted from
    the Infobox on this wikipedia page and therefore it is missing
    from the backend triple store in live.dbpedia.org
    <http://live.dbpedia.org>?
    2) Or is it because the director property is getting dropped
    somewhere in the process of the query?

    Is there a way in which I can test if the extraction of properties
    for a given wikipedia page is working correctly and expected
    properties are getting extracted for that page? Does this require
    me to install the dbpedia extraction framework (or) is there
    something simpler than that?

    Thanks
    Arun



    
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