Hmmm so its not your money. If you are paid from the public purse too, then it may not be, but it might be mine and I dont like it much either!
I thought public policy was all about open access these days. Moreover I think Elsevier are not even acting in their own best interests. In my experience defending IPR in that way is always doomed to failure, they need to start looking at new business models not try to defend a doomed one. John K. Milner From: owner-dcc-associa...@lists.ed.ac.uk [mailto:owner-dcc-associa...@lists.ed.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Peter Murray-Rust Sent: 10 November 2011 02:25 To: Simon Fenton-Jones Cc: Joy Davidson; research-data...@jiscmail.ac.uk; firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: [dcc-associates] Manchester and Elsevier team up on text-mining tool On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:50 AM, Simon Fenton-Jones <simo...@cols.com.au> wrote: Let me see if I got this right. "Elsevier, a leading provider of scientific, technical and medical information products and services", at a cost which increases much faster than inflation, to libraries who can't organize their researchers to back up a copy of their journal articles so they can be aggregated, is to have their platform, Sciverse, made more attractive, by the public purse by a simple text mining tool which they could build on a shoestring. Sciverse Applications, in return, will take advantage of this public largesse to charge more for the journals which should/could have been compiled by public digital curators in the first instance. Hmmm. So this is progress. Hey. It's not my money! Thanks very much Simon No - it's worse. I have been expressly and consistently asking Elsevier for permission to text-mine factual data form their (sorry OUR) papers. They have prevaricated and fudged and the current situation is: "you can sign a text-mining licence which forbids you to publish any results and handsover all results to Elsevier" I shall not let this drop - I am very happy to collect allies. Basically I am forbidden to deploy my text-mining tools on Elsevier content. P. -----Original Message----- From: owner-dcc-associa...@lists.ed.ac.uk [mailto:owner-dcc-associa...@lists.ed.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Joy Davidson Sent: Monday, 7 November 2011 11:59 PM To: research-data...@jiscmail.ac.uk; email@example.com Subject: [dcc-associates] Manchester and Elsevier team up on text-mining tool This press release may be of interest to list members. University enters collaboration to develop text mining applications 07 Nov 2011 http://www.manchester.ac.uk/aboutus/news/display/?id=7627 The University of Manchester has joined forces with Elsevier, a leading provider of scientific, technical and medical information products and services, to develop new applications for text mining, a crucial research tool. The primary goal of text mining is to extract new information such as named entities, relations hidden in text and to enable scientists to systematically and efficiently discover, collect, interpret and curate knowledge required for research. The collaborative team will develop applications for SciVerse Applications, which provides opportunities for researchers to collaborate with developers in creating and promoting new applications that improve research workflows. The University's National Centre for Text Mining (NaCTeM), the first publicly-funded text mining centre in the world, will work with Elsevier's Application Marketplace and Developer Network team on the project. Text mining extracts semantic metadata such as terms, relationships and events, which enable more pertinent search. NaCTeM provides a number of text mining services, tools and resources for leading corporations and government agencies that enhance search and discovery. Sophia Ananiadou, Professor in the University's School of Computer Science and Director of the National Centre for Text Mining, said: "Text mining supports new knowledge discovery and hypothesis generation. "Elsevier's SciVerse platform will enable access to sophisticated text mining techniques and content that can deliver more pertinent, focused search results." "NaCTeM has developed a number of innovative, semantic-based and time-saving text mining tools for various organizations," said Rafael Sidi, Vice President Product Management, Applications Marketplace and Developer Network, Elsevier. "We are excited to work with the NaCTeM team to bring this expertise to the research community." Notes for editors Elsevier is a world-leading provider of scientific, technical and medical information products and services. The company works in partnership with the global science and health communities to publish more than 2,000 journals, and close to 20,000 book titles. A global business headquartered in Amsterdam, Elsevier employs 7,000 people worldwide. NaCTeM is the first publicly funded, text mining centre in the world providing resources, tools and services to academia and industry. NaCTeM collaborates with both academia and industry, nationally and internationally. The University of Manchester The University of Manchester, a member of the Russell Group, is the most popular university in the UK. It has 22 academic schools and hundreds of specialist research groups undertaking pioneering multi-disciplinary teaching and research of worldwide significance. According to the results of the 2008 Research Assessment Exercise, The University of Manchester is now one of the country's major research universities, rated third in the UK in terms of 'research power'. The University had an annual income of £788 million in 2009/10. 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