Danke Kris! (im /bcc) 

Die Listen debate und members sind nun mit "u" flagged.
Sprich: subscriber-only. Rest wird den Moderatoren vorgelegt.
AFAIK koennen diese weiter Co-Moderatoren selbst anlegen.
oder sich zurueckziehen.

Vollquottelei an debate, weil Kris selbst nicht mehr Subscriber
ist.

Ad [1]: Schuldig Euer Ehren. Ich hab hier zudem nur einen Connect
mit 21.600 bps (Vierfachanschluss) und keine Chance auf eine
dickere Leitung oder Flatrate.

Gruss,
Peter

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Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 07:53:17 +0200
From: Kristian Koehntopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Peter Kuhm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kristian Koehntopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Spam und Nutzlast
User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i

On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 10:32:39PM +0200, Peter Kuhm wrote:
> Juergen hat jedenfalls am 30.9. auch via members@ Kris
> gebeten die Liste umzustellen, blieb zumindest dort aber ohne
> Reaktion. Moeglicherweise liest KK auch nicht mehr members?
> Ich erlaube mir daher Kris jetzt ins /cc zu setzen. 

Ich lese weder members noch debate.

Gegen Spam hilft zuverlaessig SpamAssassin
(http://www.spamassassin.org) mit einem Threshold von 4. Wer
sich das nicht installiert und dennoch ueber Spam jammert, ist
ein spuddeliger Windowstypi [1].

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Mail> head -1 spammed
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu Oct  3 22:12:01 2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Mail> grep "From " spammed | wc -l
    313

> Es geht wohl um das flag "u" beim EZMLM, das war offenbar
> sogar schon mal gesetzt. Non-subscriber mails werden dann
> den Moderatoren vorgelegt.

Fein, dann lasse ich jetzt die /mod's den Muell schlucken.

bash$ ezmlm-showctl ~/fitug-debate/
.-== list config for /opt/NUqmail/alias/fitug-debate/ ==----
|
|  (a) webarchive enabled
|  (B) archive open for all/subscribed users
|  (C) use default configfile
|  (d) digest list
|  (e) edit mode
|  (F) do not prefix subject
|  (g) guard archive - SENDERS only
|  (H) require confirmation on subscription
|  (i) indexed for webaccess
|  (J) require confirmation on un-subscription
|  (k) kill file available (<dir>/deny)
|  (l) subscriber list available for remote-admins
|  (M) unmoderated list
|  (n) dir/text editable for remote admins
|  (O) forward mails on moderated lists to the moderator
|  (p) public list
|  (q) <list>-request support (majordomo compat)
|  (r) remote administration enabled
|  (S) no subscription moderation
|  (t) message trailers enabled
|  (U) anybody may post
|  (W) regular list, not a sublist
|  (x) MIME attachments and size filters are active
|
| - listdir    '/opt/NUqmail/alias/fitug-debate'
| - dot-file   '/opt/NUqmail/alias/.qmail-fitug-debate'
| - listname   'debate'
| - hostname   'lists.fitug.de'
| - list-owner '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
|
'-== list config for /opt/NUqmail/alias/fitug-debate/ ==----

bash$ ezmlm-make -+ -e -u ~/fitug-debate/
bash$ ezmlm-make -+ -e -m ~/fitug-debate/
bash$ ezmlm-list ~/fitug-debate/mod/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
bash$ ezmlm-unsub ~/fitug-debate/mod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bash$ ezmlm-unsub ~/fitug-debate/mod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bash$

bash$ ezmlm-showctl ~/fitug-members/
.-== list config for /opt/NUqmail/alias/fitug-members/ ==----
|
|  (a) webarchive enabled
|  (B) archive open for all/subscribed users
|  (C) use default configfile
|  (d) digest list
|  (e) edit mode
|  (f) prefix subject
|  (g) guard archive - SENDERS only
|  (H) require confirmation on subscription
|  (i) indexed for webaccess
|  (J) require confirmation on un-subscription
|  (k) kill file available (<dir>/deny)
|  (l) subscriber list available for remote-admins
|  (M) unmoderated list
|  (n) dir/text editable for remote admins
|  (O) forward mails on moderated lists to the moderator
|  (p) public list
|  (q) <list>-request support (majordomo compat)
|  (r) remote administration enabled
|  (s) subscription moderation
|  (t) message trailers enabled
|  (U) anybody may post
|  (W) regular list, not a sublist
|  (x) MIME attachments and size filters are active
|
| - listdir    '/opt/NUqmail/alias/fitug-members'
| - dot-file   '/opt/NUqmail/alias/.qmail-fitug-members'
| - listname   'members'
| - hostname   'lists.fitug.de'
| - list-owner '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
|
'-== list config for /opt/NUqmail/alias/fitug-members/ ==----

bash$ ezmlm-make -+ -e -u ~/fitug-members
bash$ ezmlm-make -+ -e -m ~/fitug-members/
bash$ ezmlm-list ~/fitug-debate/mod/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
bash$

     -u   User posts only.  ezmlm-make sets up the list  so that
          posts  and archive access is restricted to subscribers.
...
          There is no reason to combine of SENDER checks on posts
          with  message moderation. Therefore, the combination of
          the -u switch with the -m switch is used for  a confi-
          guration with SENDER restrictions (like with -u alone),
          with the difference  that  posts  from non-subscribers
          will  be sent for moderation instead of being rejected.
          This allows the list admin to let non-subscribers post
          occasionally,  as  well as to catch subscribers posting
          from non-subscriber addresses.
...

Es existieren

bash$ ls -1d fitug*
fitug-atlarge-announce
fitug-atlarge-discuss
fitug-atlarge-panel
fitug-debate
fitug-eucrypto
fitug-gilc-europe
fitug-icann-alsg
fitug-icann-europe
fitug-icann-europe-abuse
fitug-icann-europe-full
fitug-icannchannel
fitug-members
fitug-netpol
fitug-netpol-intern
fitug-rating

Kristian

[1] S-RTL, Mitternacht ("Die Biber-Brueder" aka "The Angry Beavers")

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