-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 30/11/12 20:00, David Prévot wrote: > Hi, > > Le 30/11/2012 14:44, Ian Jackson a écrit : >> I have heard some disturbing rumours regarding Debconf13, site >> choice and funding. It seems to be difficult to find clear facts >> and of course I don't want to be spreading unverified rumours. > > I fail to understand, if you really “don't want to be spreading > unverified rumours”, why are you posting this kind of questions to > two other wider mailing lists? > > Hopefully, another message from the initial mailing list you just > quoted, sent two days later, with a pretty explicit subject > (“[Debconf-team] Correction of rumors and comments about anonymous > financial support for LeCamp”), may answer your questions the easy > way.
Actually, I felt the label `rumors' was a little bit generous in the circumstances, and it doesn't answer to questions substantially Right up to 25 October, Holger was skeptical about Le Camp's budget and was concerned about spending hard earned sponsor money on "gourmet" luxury: http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20121025.200948.bca7a335.en.html "100k for food is just insane. We are neither GourmetConf (*) nor should we. " 26-28 October, he visited Switzerland, met with local team members at Le Camp, and on IRC reported that the budget was now OK due to the 40k of anonymous sponsorship, and that is about where he stopped looking at other options <h01ger> and hug will arrange with the 2 anons to manage this properly. (i delegated this detail to have it taken care by a budget minded careful person. so not me just waving this) <pocock> h01ger: what is meant by `anons'? <h01ger> anonymous moray, as you dont seem to be on #-sponsors atm: <darst> I liked holger's estimate since it firmly paired amounts with sponsors <pocock> h01ger: they may be anonymous, but are they aware of the risk profile? are they local sponsors or long term sponsors? h01ger: and are they only willing to sponsor at Le Camp, or anywhere in CH? <h01ger> pocock, anon is anon and they are aware of the risk. and so that -team doesnt only have to trust me i trust hug with clearing pesky details. #-psonsors yetserday has some pesky details on this too <darst> but h01ger's estimates are still not enough to balance, not close <h01ger> darst, but close enough. we also estimated 50k income from professinals+coorporate and then wrote on 29 October that the money is http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20121029.132401.59bef7b6.en.html "secured" When a DebConf chair refers to the money as "secured", that is not just a rumor, that suggests it was a serious factor in the decision making process. So while you are right to point out the money is no longer part of the budget since Philipp's email, it did appear to win Holger's support for Le Camp and thus the subsequent discussions and decisions. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJQuRHyAAoJEOm1uwJp1aqD9mYP/i5po7tHIMiTrNnbT6RSby+E Gnb+vFKmQzpwjHSTqB9ZCWTLWHcL54vx/LCiNN4apZjqoFNJ7vi+CrakNWu5eZNy 40cBE4+yvs98YhfOcTNVU1ADnBStyjCwVZ9InlLkXrKm8RJqFKF4l4oT6VyXP8MR wQ1yo2pKpcI3S/Ast+dIjjXOG5Vc2PMrNVxVk2gYKRUgNby2ruLUqTYWmUycza4e uBybDTAxZEfvzMQiTiGOyX8IBX0YUVh53sXPjEndn4R2O969pKlkJCTBto0CTlOx zB5cbZyXDW3F2neamNyLjeKN/3qhRLp4c89A0+1CgS22Iei2g8WnkxZ/e1kGKJGP WAH/yUaFHJvwuXc57qxQG34ftZqFX+OQttOY2bGZYAzMfKHAFGEHyZfkWosQehlK JD2Ht59uo0ea3bOGUvAODeOxeeSP9iOR3YS2aS3WBOqshFcfWteD5Zhf8HyjhT4C DPSDvdKOSRWUe9R2G65rF5hAOvOvokc7jo9oFKsP5PxmZ1TSm3odo6mxbsA69S1Z zc5pj4pio4pzNmQb1DqOYFy49ybqEpP1NtAMK0abT1Nvk9pcelfACLU3Cp0RKITV wbCFldPE1GD5AOoS5ynNalF+3lJ6m4JhCk/HkxojtvUESWc/+2NL0jpHau4YJksM WFuJUHQDKV5ufQhjGEpa =F6DJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss