On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:13:46 +0100, Moray Allan wrote > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Moray, sorry if I misunderstood your message[0], but it seems you're proposing > > that Debconf supports rafting in daytrip, even after the team's agreement in > > the meeting on Monday 25 April that it wouldn't happen at all[1]: > > I personally have no interest in the rafting, and would be quite > happy to see it forgotten altogether. 'My' proposal was simply > trying to make concrete what the local team have proposed so that we > can discuss it. I have in fact spent a lot of time online over the > last months, and while I was in Banja Luka, explaining why the > rafting was not appropriate as the point of the main day trip, etc. > > But I *don't* think that it is universally discrimination against > wheelchair-users to allow some other people to do something that they > can't. Or should we also ban all use of projectors/slides in the > talks, as our blind attendees cannot see them?
I didn't say that. I'm limiting this matter on having Debian/Debconf officially supporting non-accessible events. People do whatever they want. However, Debconf sponsoring/supporting what they want is a completely different thing. And that's my point. In Mexico people suggested taking the *official* group photo into the swimming pool. I was not against people enjoying the swimming pool, but it's non-sense having this official scheduled event made in such a place, even knowing some attendees would be automatically kicked out from the photo. > To be clear, if you read what I wrote, you would see that this > proposal was based around a great majority of people *not* going > rafting, but allowing a few people who wanted go rafting to do so. > The local team's proposed place for the day trip lunch overlooks the > rafting course, so this doesn't require separating people. I read that. Reading again, I'm still not convinced that it's a good idea for Daytrip having: * People doing rafting * People sit and chat around rafting place and watch the rafting people by choice * People sit and chat around rafting place and watch the rafting people by *no choice* My energy for this debate ends here. I'm not able to be clearer than I'm trying to be. Regards, -- Tiago Bortoletto Vaz http://tiagovaz.org 0xA504FECA - http://pgp.mit.edu _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list [email protected] http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
