Hi, On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 20:19 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > On 16/03/13 19:56, Allison Randal wrote: > > On 03/16/2013 10:27 AM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> > >> The bid itself doesn't specify anything about the above, it just gives a > >> link to DC10, which leaves me feeling that the bid team has > >> underestimated the seriousness of these issues. > >> https://www.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/VisaAndBorderIssues > > > > The DebConf10 wiki page covered it thoroughly (including commentary from > > different perspectives), so linking to that page seemed more sensible > > than repeating all the info in the DebConf14 proposal. > > > > I ran a 3000 attendee free software conference in the US from 2005-2010, > > and have helped organize other smaller US-based free software > > conferences for over a decade, and visas have never been a statistically > > significant factor. There are a few odd cases, it's true, but they're rare. > > Every member of the Debian community, and their contribution to the > project, is valued. That `odd case' is, in Europe, treated like a human > being, because that is what they are.
I wouldn't romanticize like that. We have had border issues in non-US DCs. I can remember some stressful cases in Brazil (2004), Scotland (2007), Bosnia (2011)... It happens, it hurts, but please don't bring an EU x US way-of-treating-human-beings discussion on this list. > I agree that a lot of events do run successfully in the US with a large > attendance and I suspect a Portland DebConf would be quite large and > successful too, but please excuse me for taking a moment to reflect on > the plight of those people who wouldn't be there to share in it. Regards, -- tiago _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list [email protected] http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
