On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 02:14:50AM +0100, Moray Allan wrote: > On 2013-07-08 21:20, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > >IMO the way to go is that before tomorrows meeting we need to find > >enough persons willing to organize the dishwashing by volunteers > >and who > >are commited enough that in case of failure they are ready to do the > >unstaffed shifts themselves. > > I'd emphasise that a bit more: those advocating the volunteer route > should genuinely accept that if there are not sufficient other > volunteers, they may need to do many long dishwashing shifts > themselves. Including when they get people to sign up for a slot but > those people fail to actually turn up for it, or when those people > wander off before the job is done.
We've been done this for other not-so-funny tasks, so I think such instructions don't need too much emphasis. We're all adults and we have a few </ironic> experience as volunteers, right? > I don't think it's reasonable for us to unduly hassle attendees > towards helping on this, or to try to make it a condition of > attending or of sponsorship, especially at this late stage. Some > advertising of the possibility of helping would of course be fine, > like for the video team or for front desk. But people who are > signing themselves up to the "use volunteers" side need to be ready > to check each shift that there really are sufficient people working > throughout the shift, and to do it themselves if there aren't, > without getting upset if they end up needing to do it themselves for > many shifts. Hey, of course we have the right to get upset, I didn't get your point here. Being upset doesn't mean we won't do the job (see Holger in videoteam :). But well, by reading such discouraging messages I start thinking it may be better to switch to the old-fa$hioned solution and forget about this utopian community-oriented attempt of saving a mere five thousand dollars for nothing. Regards, -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- .''`. Tiago Vaz GPG : 1024D/A504FECA : :' : http://acaia.ca/~tiago XMPP : tiago at jabber.org `. `' tiago at debian.org IRC : tiago at OFTC `- Debian GNU/Linux - The Universal OS http://www.debian.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team