In both Debian and in Slint, you don't have to even configure the console
screen reader, it comes pre-configured.

Also with Slint, arguably the most accessible of them all, you have the
choice of various screen readers in console:

espeakup (Console screen reader connecting espeak-ng and speakup)
fenrir (Modular, flexible and fast console screen reader)
speechd-up (Console screen reader connecting Speech Dispatcher and speakup)

Now, just to be clear, I'm not talking about a the orca screen reader
working in a terminal.  I'm talking about a real console screen reader
working in text mode console even with NO X Windows running.

Nothing works better than a good console screen reader - the trade off is
that you don't have graphics, but if you cannot see, that's not so much of
a trade off.  I do wish there were more good console programms like a Linux
WordPerfect - I have my old DOS WordPerfect working under DOSBox.  I'd pay
for a working Linux version of a text word processor.

Best wishes,
David





On Wed, Dec 29, 2021 at 5:38 PM Jordan Livesey <[email protected]>
wrote:

> rather than make something new, we should really concentrate on orca
> because its built into most popular distributions except manjaro and open
> suse. because quite frankly a new to linux user would rather use orca than
> fiddle about with a console based screen reader like fenrir, luckily I
> switched to debian because the version of orca it provides is better than
> that provided by ubuntu, by that works properly with mate unlike ubuntu
>
> On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 6:15 PM Aaron <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 12/12/21 04:59, Pawel L. wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > I think that the blind Linux community would benefit more from
>> > consolidating the knowledge of talented programmers and creating one,
>> > but maximally complete screen reader.
>> >
>> > I am sure that it would be better for all of us to effectively support
>> > the development of ORCA, as is the case with NVDA in Windows, than to
>> > start new projects.
>> >
>> > There are many ideas out there, but usually nothing comes of it.
>> >
>> > Take care,
>> > Pawel
>>
>> Just to put in my own two cents as a developer - supporting an existing
>> project and starting an alternative project are not mutually exclusive.
>> One of the great things about open source is that the lessons learned
>> from one project can pretty easily be applied to a different project.
>>
>> There are many reasons why it might work better to start a new project
>> rather than contributing to an existing one. You might want to
>> experiment with concepts that the maintainers of the existing project
>> are not interested in, you might find the existing code base too
>> confusing to start contributing to, you might want to simplify the code
>> base or work in a different language that you are more familiar with.
>>
>> This allows people to experiment, or at least get familiar, with the
>> specific issues surrounding a project. The best aspects of the new
>> project can either be implemented as a patch or pulled into the main
>> project by its maintainers if they see a clear benefit.
>>
>> I'm interested in the comparison to NVDA, though. I don't know the
>> history of the development of that project, or what the main differences
>> in developer acceptance are between NVDA and ORCA. Do you find Windows
>> open source development to be less chaotic than Linux in general, or
>> just in this project specifically? It could make an interesting history.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>

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