I have tried one time but was unable to get speech output and was using a
virtual machine due to my machine being a secure boot system, the debian
installer is my favorite text based installer but I like how features are
being borrowed from it, I've yet to do a debian installation video on
youtube since I've done others

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:13 PM Didier Spaier <[email protected]> wrote:

> The Slint installer borrows at least one feature from the Debian
> installer: the
> way sound cards are probed just after booting, to find a working one
> (thanks
> Samuel).
>
> More generally, sharing ideas and features between distribution benefit
> users of
> all of them. Trying to find which one is the best is pointless as it
> depends on
> the users' needs and use cases, in other words their requirements.
>
> Cheers,
> Didier
>
> On 30/12/2021 18:56, Jordan Livesey wrote:
> > Another thing, about the installer, even if you don’t know how to get
> speech on,
> > this is for anyone new, they can just press the down arrow 5 times on
> the boot
> > menu on an refi system, plus on supported systems, like my old Lenovo,
> you hear
> > 2 beeps, I believe the current project leader is also visually impaired,
> if I
> > could, I could back port orca41 since I’ve had no trouble using it
> >
> >> On 30 Dec 2021, at 17:52, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,friendly list, this discussion was inside another discussion and
> perhaps
> >> partly because of my poor choice of words, was thought to be a distro
> flame
> >> war, but that was never my intention or desire.
> >>
> >> I want to make a point about Accessibility in general and Accessibility
> >> in Debian in particular.  Nothing I say should be taken as an offense
> to any
> >> of the developers who have done an amazing job in making Linux, and
> Debian in
> >> particular accessible.
> >>
> >> My two favorite Linux distros are Debian and Slint. I have some
> favorable
> >> comments about how robust Slackware is opposed to Debian - or most other
> >> distributions - but that's way off topic.  Suffice it to say, that
> being a
> >> Debian is the only way to go type person, I've been very impressed with
> the
> >> robustness of Slackware, especially the accessible International
> version, Slint.
> >>
> >> Now on topic.
> >>
> >> Part of accessibility is having accessibility features known about by
> users
> >> and have them easily used.  Debian does this very well in their
> installer
> >> which speaks to blind or visually impaired users, and provides visually
> >> impaired users with a high contrast graphical installer.  Excellent.
> >>
> >> My original post - which I take responsibility of not wording as well
> as I
> >> should have mentioned "ease of use". I was attempting both to tell the
> members
> >> of this list, which are both users and developers about how Slint based
> on
> >> Slackwware has succeeded in having almost all of it's
> accessibility features
> >> accessible to the new non-technical user.  As the blind that go to the
> >> museums  say:  "What's good of having guided tour headphones available
> in the
> >> manager's office when the only notice of them is a written notice we
> cannot see?"
> >>
> >> None of the accessibility features in Slint require any user effort
> other than
> >> running a script to use. With Debian you first have to know these
> features
> >> even exist, then you have to install them. In Slint, thanks to Didier
> Spaier's
> >> work these features are documented in an accessible console document. Of
> >> course, his work depends in part on your wonderful work on brltty and
> other
> >> features, again, this is not an invitation to a distro war, it's just
> about
> >> accessibility features being accessible and my recognizing these
> features have
> >> been wonderfully achieved in Slint.
> >>
> >> If such wonderful achievements aren't at least mentioned, some or all
> of them
> >> will probably never be brought into Debian to improve
> accessibility.Certainly
> >> as Samuel pointed out, all these features are available in Debian, but
> >> unfortunately it takes a bit of digging to find out about them.
> >>
> >> Again, thanks to everyone for their efforts in achieving accessibility
> of
> >> Linux. This always was a team effort of many selfless persons
> world-wide, and
> >> for that I am personally grateful and appreciative.
> >>
> >> David
> >
>
>

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