On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Tim Cutts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> On 22 Aug 2008, at 10:34 pm, Gary Lee Phillips wrote:
>
>  Institutions and individuals in tight financial situations or in less
>> technically advanced areas continue to use Alphas because they are what is
>> available. Buying newer 64-bit machines may simply be out of the question
>> for them.
>>
>
> I don't think that's true.  I don't think any PC vendors now sell Wintel
> machines which don't have 64-bit capability.


My point was not a question of availability but of cost. The Alpha you
already have, that still operates, costs nothing but electricity to run. A
new machine has an initial purchase and set up cost.

With respect to electricity consumption, the machines I have don't really
>> use any more than other desktop PCs would. Nor do they take up a lot more
>> space, as far as that goes.
>>
>
> On the server side, that isn't true either.  ES45s are huge beasts (7U
> high), which is enormous compared to, say, an HP DL360, which can have 8 CPU
> cores and a lot more memory than the ES45 in a 1U box, and will use less
> power too.


No question about that. I strongly suspect that most of the Alphas still in
use are the more recent, smaller units. There seem to be a large number of
DS10 and DS10L machines still running, for instance.


--Gary

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