Thank you for your answer Le mercredi 18 décembre à 17h 26mn 40s (+0000), Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > Michael Schmitz dixit: > > > your finding that packages from both unstable and unreleased are needed is > > correct (along with the complication that some may not be availabe at any > > given > > time). > > There’s another problem: even in the main Debian archive, “unstable” > is *not* guaranteed to be debootstrap’able, and has regularily been > broken. > > Good news for m68k though: eglibc, gcc-4.8 and linux are no longer > in “unreleased”. In fact: > > tg@freewrt:~ $ > u=/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian-ports_dists_unreleased_main_binary-m68k_Packages > tg@freewrt:~ $ # test idempotency > tg@freewrt:~ $ grep-dctrl -r -P . <$u | diff -u - $u | wc > 0 0 0 > tg@freewrt:~ $ # get me all source packages that have packages in > unreleased/m68k > tg@freewrt:~ $ grep-dctrl -r -P . -n -s Source:Package <$u | sort -u > atari-bootstrap > atari-fdisk > gcc-4.6 > gcj-4.6 > glib-networking > gnat-4.6 > google-gadgets > libbluray > m68k-vme-tftplilo > m68kboot > mesa > mysql-5.1 > vmelilo > webkit >
I am reading after my last post, and I realize that I tryied hard to implement something already available in grep-dctrl... > We can group them by: > > • architecture-specific packages > atari-bootstrap > atari-fdisk > m68k-vme-tftplilo > m68kboot > vmelilo > > • architecture-specific patches, packages going away in sid soon anyway > gcc-4.6 > gcj-4.6 > gnat-4.6 > mysql-5.1 (actually already gone) > > • maintainer refuses integrating our patches > libbluray (maybe ping again?) > mesa (refusal also upstream) > > • patches need to be updated against current versions of the packages > google-gadgets (waits on webkit/gtk) > webkit > > • “Build without libproxy, for bootstrapping.” > glib-networking > > Nice work indeed (same thing for debian-alpha). It is now possible (checked mid-november) to install from m68k on debian-ports a lxc container with qemu user mode emulation thanks to Laurent Vivier's qemu-m68k (https://gitorious.org/qemu-m68k/qemu-m68k) > None of them is, however, strictly needed for debootstrap > (although the architecture-specific packages may be needed > when d-i’ing a system). I read somewhere that Aurélien > regularily creates snapshots of debian-ports – which means > that we can install m68k from these, Right Now™. > > deb http://ftp.debian-ports.org/debian-snapshot/2013-12-12/ unstable main > > This should work. Maybe Aurélien can “freeze” one of these, > if needed? > I am not sure : are these snapshots apt-gettable ? Due to the way they are taken (cp -al, lines 37, 38, 39 of archive-snapshot in mini-dak, and archive-reindex-meta line 87 ), every package or metadata is kept, but the Release files which seem to be hard links towards the current ones (Is it correct ?) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Back to debootstrap. Yes, it needs support for multiple versions > (already has some, atm) and the unreleased distribution right now. > > I guess APT’s ordering (from a given package, always use the > dpkg-numerically largest version, ignoring all dpkg-numerically > smaller versions, period) would work for now, as we don’t have > the arch:all/arch:any mix in the minbase, base or buildd set > much (except libsemanage-common). Everything else needs a very > complicated solver (such as, use an older libsemanage-common > that works with the libsemanage1 version in the archive) and > is out of scope for the sh-based debootstrap. > > > bye, > //mirabilos (short, caught the flu) > -- > <mirabilos> │ untested > <Natureshadow> │ tut natürlich > <Natureshadow> │ was auch sonst ... > <mirabilos> │ fijn ☺ Gute Besserung ! J.-H. Chatenet -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131219005316.GA1928@debirf-dominicain
