On 12/18/05, Aaron Stromas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Seriously, it's fine. Do an 'expert' install rather than the > > standard install and root / normal user is setup normally. Do a > > 'server-expert' install and you get no GNOME or X. If you avoid > > the hand-holding Ubuntu does, it's close enough to Debian not to > > notice most of the time. > > i'm game, but i also hear that some people regard ubuntu as > undermining debian, creating schism. i haven't been paying much > attention to the issue. frankly, both exim or postfix, cyrus, firefox > and eclipse run fine under gnome, and that was good enough for me.
Ubuntu is a desktop distro, not server. It was only recently that they began to start their real emergence as a server distro (which, IMHO, Debian still rules hands-down! I wouldn't host a non-Debian web server unless I was paid big bucks, and got a nice fat load of PCs and laptops to boot! Even then... no guarantees.) One must remember that almost every app that's present in Debian is also in *buntu. There are only a few things that aren't (like Adept.) Speaking of Adept, DON'T TRY IT - STICK WITH APTITUDE/SYNAPTIC/KPACKAGE!!! Adept tries to emulate a more Google-ish approach, but fails miserably at it. It's really assuming you know what packages you want and that you know their names. However, it's so slow that I can use Aptitude faster than Adept. Anyways, back OT, I don't think *buntu is really trying to undermine as much as to enhance, most particularly (heck, exclusively) for the desktop crowd.

