On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 05:07:40PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Dear maintainers, > > I have sone news to the system freezing we all have a riddle with. I have > some > news, which will hopefully help. > > This is what I found out (after many many freezes) > > 1. Always(!) just short before freeze the broadcom module hangs and is going > to be reloaded. Please remember this for my following explanation, this is > important. > > Now take a look at my kern.log and read my explanation to it carefully. They > are marked with "xxx" > > ---------- snip ------ > Nov 26 16:23:07 protheus2 kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) > Nov 26 16:28:07 protheus2 kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) > Nov 26 16:33:09 protheus2 kernel: APIC error on CPU0: 40(40) > > xxx You see the APIC-errors, but they occure some times before without crash ! > > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out > > xxx Look, the network is going down !!! > > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Controller RESET (TX timeout) ... > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:06:05.0 > disabled > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: PCI: Enabling device 0000:06:05.0 (0000 -> > 0002) > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:06:05.0[A] -> GSI > 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 169 > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Chip ID 0x4318, rev 0x2 > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Number of cores: 4 > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Core 0: ID 0x800, rev 0xd, vendor > 0x4243, enabled > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Core 1: ID 0x812, rev 0x9, vendor > 0x4243, enabled > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Core 2: ID 0x804, rev 0xc, vendor > 0x4243, enabled > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Core 3: ID 0x80d, rev 0x7, vendor > 0x4243, enabled > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: PHY connected > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Detected PHY: Version: 3, Type 2, > Revision 7 > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Detected Radio: ID: 8205017f > (Manuf: 17f Ver: 2050 Rev: 8) > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Radio turned off > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Radio turned off > Nov 26 16:33:21 protheus2 kernel: bcm43xx: Controller restarted > > xxx As you can see, the module is loaded again ! > Nov 26 16:35:51 protheus2 kernel: klogd 1.4.1#20, log source = /proc/kmsg > started. > > xxx And the last message is from the new reboot ( I had to hard reset) > > --------- snap --------------- > > O.k. you now might think, the freeze is produced by the broadcom module. > This is NOT !!! I will explain why: > > When I was in console, the broadcom-module was loaded again as you see above. > Now here is the interesting thing of it: > > X was started and the machine was running. Only kdm was started, I switched > to > X (ALT + F7) and the mouse moved on, I could ssh to it and everything else > went fine, too. > > So I waited some minutes, and nothing bad happend. > > I switched from X to console and back to X. All went fine ! > > Now the important thing: I wanted to start a windowmanager. I decided NOT to > choose KDE (as I have kismet in the applettbar configured), but a small > window manager: XFCE. As soon, I started it, the machine hang at once. > > I could reproduce this behaviour several times. > > What can we conclude of this ? IMO there must be together between the > freezing > and the window-manager itself. > > This excludes the kernel itself, Xorg, the fglrx-driver, the broadcom-module > and many other things. Please look at all the mails to this theme: You will > find many descriptions, which will exclude many things and let my watchings > seem to be true.
It's not clear to me how you have excluded the kernel. I use icewm, and the framebuffer X server, and get freezes. Presumably this excludes both XFCE and icewm - unless they share code or otherwise have the same bug. I have the problem when I use xdcmp to log into a remote machine -- thus only server-side X-related stuff is running. I don't have the problem when I remote log into my machine elsewhere using XDCMP -- then only client-side X-related stuff is running. So presumably it's server-side X. That pretty well rules out window managers and such. You have the problem with fgrlx and ATI, I have it with the fb server and nvidia. What is left? What do we still have in common? -- hendrik > > I hope this message will help, to find the bug. > > Best regards > > Hans > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

