Well, this is an old document and in general we don't use it any more
because there is the "accepted debian way" to use 32bits programs,
that is with ia32-libs, and in my particular case an old copy of
"ia32-apt-get" (better approach in my opinion) both could achieve the
solution of the second perspective...

iceweasel in a chroot for a 32 bits plugin?...
try ndiswrapper and iceweasel in 64bits...

This is ancient history in amd64 land...
We have stable, complete and working systems nowadays...

wine use ia32-libs to run...

a drive of 32 bits for cups? Ok, run it in a chroot and connect as a
remote server...

I prefer debian I don't even try redhat in years because I don't like
many things about it...
(the old redhat approach is to install both libraries 32bits and
64bits there is the same today?)

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 12:51 PM, kap4lin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2010/6/24 Jaime Ochoa Malagón <[email protected]>:
>> Some time ago...
>>
>> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html
>>
>> In general there is no need of it any more...
>
> Well, that page was last edited in 2006. So, yes we can all install a
> "native" 64-bit system; but that was not the issue here!
>
> The multi-arch movement is yet to be seen out of the "lab
> environment." It certainly is an idealistic solution; but the reality
> bites! And this is where Debian (and derivatives), I feel, has (have)
> fallen behind. It is amazing to see how RedHat has amalgamated the
> i386 and x86_64 archs. Well, to be fare, they have paid developers and
> much more of a stable system (kernel, libs, etc..) to build upon, ...
> yada, yada, yada, ...
>
> Getting back to the pertinent point: I look at chroot in two ways:
>
> 1. For developers to see if their code compiles in a different
> architecture. These days, vbox or vmware kind of solutions are better
> suited for this, I think.
>
> 2. For "desktop/end" users to use (proprietary) multimedia softwares
> which are only available in 32-bit.
>
> So, from the perspective of 2:
> if it is possible to bind (read-only) /lib (and /usr/lib/ and ...) of
> the host system to (say) (CHROOT_PATH)/host/lib (and /host/usr/lib and
> ...) of the guest; with host's library paths included in the guest's
> ld.conf, then the guest could "in principle" utilize the binaries of
> the host system.
>
> The typical scenario that I have in mind is this: a KDE desktop user
> installs 32-bit iceweasel in chroot to utilize a 32-bit plugin, but
> doesn't want to install the whole KDE in chroot to be able to open a
> pdf file (using okular).
>
> I feel that this 32-bit chroot in a 64-bit machine affects GNOME and
> KDE users _asymmetrically_, but such is life.
>
> I am eager to see how "pain-free" schroot is.
> --
> Regards
> Kap4Lin
> --------------------------------------
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