On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 22:08 +0200, Martin Guy wrote: > On 19 July 2012 19:35, Steve McIntyre <st...@einval.com> wrote: > > armel > > ===== > > > > First released with Lenny. Soft-float EABI, Software floating point > > assumed by default. v4t which also runs smaller-size thumb instruction > > set. Targeting old hardware like openmoko. Discussed (again!) moving > > forwards from v4. Declared that v5 is no faster than v4t, but there > > are doubts elsewhere in the community. Later discussion suggests > > moving to v5te would be worth it. Some good benchmarks would help - > > volunteers welcome! Upstreams don't seem to care about armv4t anymore.
http://code.google.com/p/v8/issues/detail?id=590 (reports in Debian are that this is not fixed, they are only testing with qemu, which cannot be used for this testing) > > Actually, supporting less machines is a move backward, not forward. > The speed advantage for standard apps on v5+ machines is less than 1%, > i.e. negligable. > > Of course, I have a vested interest in continued armv4t support, since > my company has an armv4t board on the market that ships with Debian as > its standard distribution. It would also impact Technologic Systems, > Bluewater Systems and other small companies for similar reasons. > > Who is it that keeps bringing this up? I can see that ARM Ltd would > want this, as it would eliminate Linux distro support for devices from > which they no longer see any royalties., but I don't see any advantage > for anyone else except chronic speed freaks who would kill other > people's boards off to get a half of a percent faster for themselves. > > If somebody has a critical need to multiple two shorts with result as > a long in a single instruction (which is what the E in 5TE brings), > surely they can compile their own armel packages changing the cpu > type, rather than making Debian do that and breaking other people's > systems needlessly? > > Isn't Debian supposed to be the "Universal Operating System", where > "Universal" includes running on as many different computers as > possible? > And the speed freaks can always build their own v5t and v5te > repositories and use those to install from, leaving everybody happy. > > M -- -Shawn Landden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1342815264.5910.151.camel@shawn-ssd