On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 01:02:17AM +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steve McIntyre <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Calm down. > > i'm perfectly calm. i apologise for giving the impression that i'm >not. you may have mistaken the strength of the words for my emotional >state. i can assure you that the two are not linked.
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, assuming you had lost your temper and therefore self control. Oh well. >> You may have some >> (justified) dislike of the Pi, but there is absolutely no need nor >> justification to abuse others in the Debian community because of that. > > it's not abuse: i'm asking - reasonably i believe - that discussion >of a device which has nothing to do with debian-arm software not be >discussed on debian-arm [and using strong words to emphasise that]. > > is that an unreasonable request, steve? I believe so, yes. The Raspbian folks are valued members of the Debian community. They're working on a derived distro that better supports hardware that you (and a number of other folks) don't like, as we all know. But dislike of that hardware and the companies involved in producing it is no excuse for ranting and raving here, at them. These guys are working on a Debian-derived (in fact, basically just Debian-*rebuilt*) distro for a particular piece of ARM-powered hardware. I personally think that's just fine and on-topic here, just as much as discussions about running Debian on other ARM-based hardware or discusssions about developing new hardware options for running Debian and other Free Software. I might feel differently if they were swamping the list with dozens of posts per day; that would then justify a separate list purely for the sake of traffic. But they're not. If you are so against reading anything about Raspbian etc., then I must echo Paul Wise's response: you will need to filter your mail. Raspbian and Pi stuff *will* continue to show up here, I guarantee it. Invective from you isn't going to change that, instead it makes you look bad. I hope you don't want that. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. [email protected] You raise the blade, you make the change... You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

