On 6 November 2013 18:45, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The 1040 looks nice. It is out of my planned budget, but the 9.7 inch screen >> (non-widescreen) would mean I get more use out of it s a tablet too. (I >> really only need a tablet as a reader - for everything else I prefer a >> keyboard; and for reading, widescreen is quite bad). >> >> What I would really like to know is what kind of performance the *GPU* would >> deliver > > *deep breath*... well... do you care if the performance benchmarks > are twice that of the nearest competition if, after a few hours of > heavy use the proprietary GPU software, which is so complex due to the > fundamental hardware design being so flexible (yet old) that it > corrupts the main OS and crashes it? ...funnily, I do. My main aim (hypothetical for now, I'm only looking at feasibility) would be to port a Second Life viewer. I'm likely to get crashes after a few hours of heavy use anyway for quite some time - if it is stable for an hour it would be a smashing success. As a maximum aim, If it supports full OpenGL somewhere near what, at least, a 6-7 year old basic dedicated GPU did, then *I want it*. >> and how well it's supported under GNU/Linux (as opposed to Android). >> The advertising describes GNU/Linux for "work". I want it for play :) > > no. you don't. *do not* get *anything* that has imgtec PowerVR. > ask anyone who's worked with intel embedded atom SoCs. ask anyone > who's had an intel atom laptop with a PowerVR GPU. Wait, is PowerVR rebranded as Intel HD Graphics? I'm getting confused - again probably my fault (just trying to understand how stuff works). >> So what is wrong with that? Performance? Driver support? > > the team that designed it has left the company. the remaining people > at imgtec are completely unable to deal with its complexity. so they > tweak it and dial up a few macros to get higher performance but they > fundamentally are incapable of fixing the software. it's a pity > because it's a fantastic design. go look up luc's talk. I'll look that up, but the question is whether there is an alternative. Although at the $300 mark, where the 1040 is aiming, there probably is, the AMD C-50, with its stellar GPU performance. But if no one is doing an open design based on that, there is probably a good reason for it that anyone more knowledgeable than I probably knows very well? >>> anyway anyone who'd like to follow along, it's all here: >>> http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/kde_tablet/news/ >> >> >> Might be my fault but I could not find the basics there, as in CPU/GPU used, >> RAM, OpenGL status... > > ok you won't, because it's a chassis. the CPU Card is a plugin > user-upgradeable module, reusing PCMCIA (PCCARD) if you remember that. Of course I remember PCMCIA. And it sounds like a very good idea. > the *first* in the series will be an Allwinner A10 module, which has > its own news page: > > http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/news/ > > yeees, that CPU Card runs debian. first thing i installed when i got it :) Cool. But I guess the A10 GPU (Mali400) is pretty basic compared to the aforementioned PowerVR? >> and, of course, how you can attach a keyboard. It does seem you are going >> for non widescreen which is kinda cool :) > > lots going on - the first tablet will be 1024x600 (i'm not keen on it > personally, but the client's client are). after that we'll have cash > to make a whole stack of products whahey! I'll keep watching the space, as if I go for a tablet at all, it has to be 9+ inch non-widescreen and with a wired keyboard case. But THAT would be a real incentive to go for it (basically it would replace two devices that I need). -- Yours, Mikhail Ramendik Unless explicitly stated, all opinions in my mail are my own and do not reflect the views of any organization -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/canq10gv4xndxgxf5rh3tekwet0moounlfycnts837dh-xob...@mail.gmail.com
