Any other way of cutting down boot time?

 Regards,

Divya Subramanian


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:10 PM, David Hicks <[email protected]>wrote:

> >> The initramfs isn't the source of the slowdown, unless you have a
> really huge one.
>
> It could be a part of it, though maybe not a massive part. On my hacked up
> NAS uboot takes a few seconds to copy the initramfs from onboard NAND into
> the system RAM before it launches the kernel. If you ditched ramfs you
> could cut those few seconds out. It's not masses I suppose....
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Bill Gatliff <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 8:42 AM, David Hicks 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not exactly the foremost expert on this but ... my understanding is
>>> that the initramfs, or initrd or whatever it is, contains a bunch of useful
>>> things the kernel needs to boot the board fully. Primarily these include
>>> hardware driver modules needed by the kernel ahead of when the main
>>> filesystem becomes available. For instance disk controllers and filesystem
>>> drivers.
>>>
>>> One way to reduce the use of the initramfs/initrd is to build a kernel
>>> that has the drivers you need built into it rather than loaded as modules
>>> from the ramfs. You would need to build a custom kernel (relatively easy
>>> with debian already on the device and using make-kpkg) with the kernel
>>> config customised to achieve this.
>>>
>>> I have no idea how much this would speed up boot time, if at all. You
>>> also lose some of the other benefits of using an initramfs/initrd, which
>>> I'm having trouble remembering right now. (recovery shell? various scripts
>>> for mdadm/lve? stuff...)
>>>
>>
>> Actually, baking the necessary modules into the kernel rather than
>> loading them from initramfs would speed things up quite a bit, especially
>> if the modules are demand-loaded.  Reasons include the fact that you'd be
>> doing the linking at build-time on your fast PC, rather than at run-time on
>> a slow(er) ARM core.
>>
>> The initramfs isn't the source of the slowdown, unless you have a really
>> huge one.  The bootloader already has to load the kernel, and having the
>> filesystem in RAM at the same time will usually speed things along.  At
>> least until you have to scour the eMMC to find the final root filesystem,
>> but there's no avoiding that really...
>>
>> Granted, you can put things into initramfs that DO slow you down:
>> hardware probing, lack of parallelism, sleeps, lots of shell scripts, and
>> so on.  But the initramfs concept itself doesn't present any speed issues.
>>
>> I haven't looked at Debian's initramfs lately, since I tend to build my
>> own.  But since Debian favors generalism over performance (as they should),
>> it wouldn't surprise me to see one built from the ordinary Debian tools
>> that drags its feet a lot before going to the user prompt.
>>
>>
>> b.g.
>> --
>> Bill Gatliff
>> [email protected]
>>
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