I’m not sure whether there was actually a realistic chance of finding anyone on 
the mailing lists when you ask such questions.

I would assume that 99% of our users aren’t present on the mailing lists and 
usually users will only find out that the hardwares requirements were bumped 
when they are trying to upgrade their machines to the next stable Debian 
release.

I also don’t really see what you’re gaining by upgrading the baseline from 
ARMv4t to ARMv5. It’s essentially an upgrade from ancient to slightly less 
ancient. I’m still failing to see any advantage in that.

The real difference is only seen when upgrading from ARMv4t to ARMv7 and this 
already covered by “armhf”. ARMv7 has lock-free atomics in hardware and things 
like OpenJDK Hotspot and Rust (although Rust also has a v6 port) and probably 
most other advanced languages require at least ARMv7.

So, what are you actually expecting to gain with this bump? You will still be 
lacking native ARM support for most things.

Adrian

PS: Sorry for my posting style, I’m on mobile.

> On Nov 12, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Adrian Bunk <b...@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> my search for armv4t users on >= stretch [1] did not find a single one, 
> and unless someone brings up a strong reason against doing so I will 
> request a baseline bump to armv5te in gcc in a week.[2]
> 
> Worth mentioning is that this is armv5te, not armv5t.
> Quoting Arnd Bergmann regarding kernel support:
>  We have some code for the original ARM1020 processor, but don't support
>  any machines with it, if they ever existed outside of the lab.
> 
> cu
> Adrian
> 
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2017/11/msg00014.html
> [2] This does not affect the armel baseline in jessie and stretch,
>    armv4t will stay supported there.
> 
> -- 
> 
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>        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
>       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
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