On Tuesday 30 July 2019 05:30:35 Reco wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 05:21:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 29 July 2019 09:17:37 Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 07:56:25AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 29 July 2019 05:08:49 Reco wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 08:15:20PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday 28 July 2019 00:27:36 Reco wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 12:13:21AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That, and a whole restaraunt sized menu of dpkg > > > > > > > > > > stuff for building packages is on the missing list. > > > > > > > > > > Grrrrr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > apt install build-essential > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I *think* I did that. With synaptic. I gave it quite a > > > > > > > > list, it took about an hour to install it all on a 100Mb > > > > > > > > circuit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're unsure if it's installed or not - you have > > > > > > > bigger problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it will boot normally I'll make sure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why won't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > It gets to udev, and everything after that seem to take > > > > > > twice as long as the last start, by the time it gets to MTD, > > > > > > whatever that is, the blanker kicks in and nothing will > > > > > > wake it up. I don't thinks its started ssh yet at that > > > > > > point, but its been 6 or so hours. Nope. No ssh answering > > > > > > the phone. > > > > > > > > > > Two options. > > > > > > > > > > 1) You want to solve the problem. > > > > > Then it's "show, do not tell". > > > > > Boot the kernel with the "debug" option, send journalctl > > > > > output here. > > > > > > > > Where do I find that journalctl log? > > > > > > journalctl(1). Try it some day. > > > > Unforch Reco, you are ignoring my question. If its not booting, > > As a long-time debian-user regular I learned to to trust this > particular term - "not booting". > For me, "not booting" is the inability to execute OS kernel, or the > kernel panic at boot. > Here, it usually means "I cannot see LightDM/GDM". > > > what good is it to try and run journalctl when the screen is blank > > and there is no response to anything typed on the keyboard? > > Make it give you a response. Two magic parameters at kernel's > commandline usually do it for me - "debug init=/bin/bash". > Note that in this particular case it's "dmesg", not "journalctl". > > > That still doesn't answer what I thought was a simple question. It > > never did boot so I have that card in my reader now. > > > > That simple question is: > > > > What log file do you want to see? > > Assuming Debian defaults - /var/log/kern.log,
is empty. kern.log.1 is over 200k, and the list won't accept that. > /var/log/messages, is dated, has one single 140 char line saying it had been hup'd > /var/log/daemon.log. is 32k of a repeating line with the instance and pid being incremented, ul 27 00:50:01 picnc dbus-daemon[1651]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.systemd1' requested by ':1.731' (uid=0 pid=1076 comm="/usr/sbin/CRON ") (using servicehelper) Jul 27 00:55:01 picnc dbus-daemon[1651]: [system] Activating service name='org.freedesktop.systemd1' requested by ':1.733' (uid=0 pid=1465 comm="/usr/sbin/CRON ") (using servicehelper) that is the last 2 lines. Its been powered since the 26th non-stop until about an hour ago. Its now the 30th. I'll probably overwrite the card and re-install from the net when I'm next awake. Unless you want those logs sent as a PM. > Reco Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

