Jorge L. deLyra wrote:

>>Cool.  Could I ask for some help then?  I think that I've "tried 
>>everything" now, including purging and reinstalling NIS on head2, 
>>rebooting head1 and head2, reading all of the NIS documentation very 
>>carefully, etc., but it doesn't quite work.
>>
>>I can use head2 as an NIS server just fine on the main network (e.g. 
>>machine3 on the same network as head1 and head2 can use head2 as NIS 
>>server), but not on the subnet hanging off head2.  The subnet off head2 
>>(10.0.0.*) is different from that off head1 (10.1.1.* and 10.2.2.*), but 
>>I have both in /etc/ypserv.securenets on head1, and all of the machines 
>>in /etc/hosts of head1 and head2.
>>    
>>
>Hummm, this doesn't look quite right. I don't think it makes any sense
>having the machines of the private network of head2 on either
>ypserv.securenets or hosts of head1 and vice-versa. Each front-end should
>list only its private net on hosts and ypserv.securenets, even if you are
>using masquerading. The machines within either private network cannot
>interchange packets directly with any machine outside and their addresses
>are invisible for machines outside, they don't exist for them.
>
I see.  The reason I did this was that inspection of the files in 
/var/yp/mydomain.edu on head2 showed the hosts and securenets of head1. 
 Well, when I get it working, I'll try removing them from head1's list 
and see what happens.

>>I also have entries for all of the 
>>machines in head1's ypserv.conf with lines like:
>>
>>10.0.0.2:*:none
>>
>>But 10.0.0.2 and the others can't use head2 as a server, /etc/init.d/nis 
>>start just prints "Starting NIS services: ypbind " then sits there and 
>>does nothing.
>>    
>>
>Well, setting up a slave server is always a pain... Here we never changed
>ypserv.conf, but of course you do need the appropriate network entries on
>ypserv.securenets. You also need to set yp.conf on the nodes pointing to
>the correct domain and server. If I remember well, the order of operations
>is this (if you get the order wrong loop around until it works):
>
>0) Make sure the master server is operating.
>1) Go to the machine which is to be a slave server and change "false" to
>   "slave" on /etc/init.d/nis; don't change its yp.conf yet; restart NIS.
>2) Run /usr/lib/yp/ypinit -s <hostname-of-master> on the future slave
>   server; note how this ypinit is not on the path; this should pull the
>   maps from the master server.
>3) Now you can change the yp.conf of the slave to bind it to itself if you
>   wish (this is generally convenient).
>4) Go to the master server, reinitialize NIS with /usr/lib/yp/ypinit -m
>   and include the slave server on the list of servers.
>5) Go to /var/yp and change the Makefile there to activate pushing the
>   maps to the slave server each time NIS is updated; there is a line for
>   this with "NOPUSH" or something in it.
>6) Touch ypservers in /var/yp and run "make" there to see if it all goes
>   through.
>
>This _is_ a pain to get all up and working, I always mess up the order and
>wander around a bit until I get it going, every time I try!... |:-)
>
Hmm, I just re-did all of this, and make in /var/yp on head1 works fine, 
but the clients still don't ypbind properly...

Is there a yp.log file somewhere?  I can't find it, and nothing shows up 
in messages, dmesg, or daemon.log -- oh wait, syslog has an entry for a 
refused connection, but that was when the slave tried to connect to 
itself but wasn't in its own ypserv.securenets (that was an easy one). 
 I can't find anything for the clients, nor does anything show up when 
machines on the main network use head2 to start nis -- which works just 
fine.

>>I see.  This kind of seems like cheating, but if it works, that's cool. :-)
>>
>>I can see why old kernels might not have supported it: getting multiple 
>>mount requests from the same physical machine would be kind of wierd.
>>    
>>
>Well, not really, it is like mounting several filesystems from a server.
>You can even mount the same filesystem from a server in many different
>mount points in a client with no problems, try it. The problem with old
>kernels is that they didn't know hot to handle NFS's randomly assigned
>network ports. The 2.4 series has a conntrack module that does that.
>
I see, makes sense.

>>Ohmygod, it works!  Look at that!  The clients hang for a little while 
>>(~1-2 minutes) while mounting, but it's all there.  Most excellent.
>>    
>>
>Hummm, there is something wrong, it shouldn't take that long...
>
Yes, I think I know what the problem was.  A mistake on my part in using 
the diskless package.  This may also be what's causing the nis problems, 
but without physical access to the machines just now, I can't test this.

>>One question: what does "ftp" have to do with NFS?  I don't need the 
>>machines to be able to use ftp, NFS is the only service we need from 
>>outside the subnet.  Or does ftp mean nfs in some way?
>>    
>>
>No, that was just an aside remark. Masquerading works OK without further
>ado for most protocols, but you get in trouble if a protocol is such that
>the outgoing connection (which is easy to masquerade) causes a related
>incomming connection to pop up, such as the data connection of ftp. In
>this case the kernel must know about it in order to handle it, hence the
>special module. This is true for ftp, some gaming connections, etc. FTP
>has nothing to do with NFS and you may not need it indeed.
>  
>
>>Thank you very much!  Now if I can just get NIS to work...  How about 
>>via masquerading?  Nope, that doesn't work.  Oh well.
>>    
>>
>Yes it does! Except for distributing the load on several slave servers,
>this might be the best way to do it. Of course, the nodes inside your
>private nets must have Internet domain service available and must have
>their yp.conf files pointing to the server outside. DNS also works via
>masquerading. Pretty much _everything_ works.
>
Okay, I can't get it to work, but as I said, I'll try fixing the other 
problem first.

Thank you again,
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