Andreas Tille <andr...@an3as.eu> writes: > On Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 02:45:43PM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: >> It is just the long description that is hidden -- the short one is >> visible and gives a good hint of what the program does. This is what I >> would expect a user to look for if he browses a lengthy list. If he is >> interested, the longer description is just one click away. > > I keep on failing how you draw the conclusion what users are > expecting.
OK, so could you describe what the expections of the users here are? >> > I asked *several* users and they like the pages as they are. I have >> > no idea about astronomy users. >> >> I would guess this is not so much about the field of interest but >> whether you ask new users or older ones. This is basically the same as a >> layout change of a newspaper -- regular users tend to want the old >> version kept. > > Sorry, you are wrong here: I asked always *new* users (after talks > presenting it or asking new colleagues). I misunderstood you here, sorry. I thought that you had asked people to compare the current approach with the alternative one. > Users are also very keen on seeing relevant publications. What dou you mean here? Publications are included in my design. See http://blends.debian.org/astro/tasks/viewers#saods9 as an example. >> >> We could try to implement the pieces that you still miss in my proposal >> >> by keeping the Debian Design there (this is basically an implementation >> >> of the "#all" flag, right?). >> > >> > I'd be interested in seeing this to enable evaluation and hearing opinions. >> >> I now uploaded a working version for the Debian Astro Blend. As a typical >> example , you could take the "Development" list >> >> http://blends.debian.org/astro/tasks/development >> >> and compare it with f.e. the old (similar) science/astronomy-dev task list: >> >> http://blends.debian.org/science/tasks/astronomy-dev > > I admit I do absolutely not like the shortened list since it is > something totally different than it was intended. http://blends.debian.org/astro/tasks/development#all Is not shortened at all. It contains almost everything what is in the current approach. So, it has *additionally* to what you intended (please write a few words about this) the advantage that one can have a better overview if one likes. What exactly are you missing there? > I do not care for the size but the fact that we have the entire > information about the packages. This is there in my approach as well. You can have it selectively per package (what I would prefer), or in one big piece (with the "#all" hash). Switching between them is just one click. But, page length finally *does* matter. Nobody wants to go though a endless page. > You simply want something else which is fine but please do not > describe it as replacement for the existing tasks pages. It can IMO replace it since it has the original content (minus the parts that I still didn't implement yet). Best regards Ole