On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 12:50:21AM -0500, Rick_Thomas wrote: > Ralf, > > Are you willing/able to install a small MacOS (8 or 9, not X) partition > on these machines? If so, you can use the BootX bootloader. If you > don't know about it, it's a MacOS app that loads a Linux kernel and > ramdisk, along with a boot-time parameter string. BootX provides > essentially all the important functionality of yaboot for NewWorld Macs > or grub/lilo for x86s.
Bah, you are proposing the ugly non-free solution, shame on you :) Seriously, he has the miboot floppies working, so why would he need bootx ? > There are four different bootloaders for Macs. One is yaboot, which > only works on NewWorld machines. The others are miboot, quik, and > BootX, which work on OldWorld machines, but not on NewWorld. > > For technical reasons having to do with the details of how OldWorld Macs > get driver software for their boot devices, the miboot bootloader will > never be useful for anything but floppy disk booting. Even if the > cleanroom re-implementation project gets off the ground and produces a > working bootloader, this will not change. Sure, but we are speaking initial installation, afterward you are supposed to use quik. > Quik gets around this problem by using Open Firmware to access its boot > devices. However, until recently, quik did not support initial > ramdisks. This makes it useless for booting any of the stock 2.6 based > kernels. There is, apparently, in the works an attempt to fix this. > But it's not clear that the fix will make it into the distribution > before sarge is released. Even if a fixed quik makes it possible to > boot 2.6 kernels from a hard disk or over a network, quik's inherent > reliance on specialized model-dependent patches to the Open Firmware > makes me think that it's not (and never will be) for the faint of heart. It works rather well, for woody only one model was listed as not supporting quik. > In my very humble opinion, that doesn't leave much except BootX for the > "general user" with an OldWorld Mac. Fortunately, BootX "just works" on > all the models of Oldworld Macs that I've tried it on. I recommend you > give it a try. Well, debian can't recomend it, and many will not have or not want mac os anymore, or like me, are saddled with a greek localised mac os, which is not really all that fun to use. Well, probably good oportunity to learn greek you would say :) Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

