On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 12:39:01AM -0500, Raylynn Knight wrote: > On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 02:14, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 11:23:00PM -0500, Raylynn Knight wrote: > > > On Tue, 2004-12-14 at 14:01, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > > > > > Not installing the kernel is not currently supported. You could hack a > > > > base-installer so that it don't installs a kernel though. > > > > > > > This is why the new installer is broken for many users!! I have an > > > unsupported architecture (Nubus PPC). I had no problem installing with > > > > He, nice, i never heard of this actually working. > > See http://nubus-pmac.sourceforge.net/
Well, i still never heard of supported nubus machines earlier. > > > the woody installer, I just created a kernel with the ramdisk.image.gz > > > from the woody CD, booted and installed. I can attempt this with the > > > new debian installer but the install fails because it can't load a > > > kernel. Loading the kernel will never do me any good, because the only > > > way to boot a Nubus PPC box is via the MkLinux booter from a MacOs > > > partition. So in order to use sarge I must first install woody and then > > > do a dist-upgrade. Extra work just because the new installer insists on > > > installing a kernel. > > > > I spoke to soon. After playing around with boot options I have a > successful install on a PowerBook 1400. I found the option that allowed > me to choose installing a 2.4.27 kernel, which is exactly the version > I'm using. I'll be installing on a Performa 6300 next and if all goes > well my G3 upgraded 7100 would be next. Install report to follow > soon!!! Mmm, which of these are nubus machines ? None of them i guess ? > > Well, you are aware that the right thing would be to fix the kernel to work > > for you. Are you aware of the differences between the nubus-kernel and the > > main kernel ? Is it totally impossible to reunite them ? > > > Not sure why the patches have never been pushed upstream, as I got > involved just over a year ago. I try to maintain the Ethernet drivers > for the m68k Macintosh, and discovered that they were using those > drivers for the PPC NuBus port also. Which makes sense since it is the same hardware. > > Ideally, you would create a nubus patch, and then build your own kernel > > package (a bit like the -apus kernels are done), and then we can fix > > base-installer and archdetect to recognize the nubus pmacs, and install that > > kernel, and specialize nobootloader so that it tells the user what to do to > > get the kernel working. > > > To get the kernel working it needs to be copied to the Extensions folder > as 'Mach Kernel' on the HFS partition. Booting is done with the MkLinux > booter. So, you would either have a nubus-installer which did exactly that, or have a nobootloader specialization which tells the user to do it manually. > > I would gladly assist you in that task, but i need your help, since you are > > the first one i ever knew which runs nubus hardware. What i need from you > > is : > > > > 1) The content of /proc/cpuinfo, in order to fix archdetect to recognize > > the > > nubus pmacs. If there is nothing about it in /proc/cpuinfo, then another > > way > > of recognizing the nubus pmacs. > > > PowerBook 1400: > > processor : 0 > cpu : 603e > revision : 4.0 (pvr 0006 0400) > bogomips : 88.67 > machine : PowerMac,NuBus > motherboard : M2 MacRISC > detected as : 0 (<NULL>) > pmac flags : 00000000 > memory : 64MB > pmac-generation : NuBus > > Performa 6300: > > processor : 0 > cpu : 603e > revision : 1.4 (pvr 0006 0104) > bogomips : 66.56 > machine : PowerMac,NuBus > motherboard : Performa MacRISC > detected as : 0 (<NULL>) > pmac flags : 00000000 > memory : 64MB > pmac-generation : NuBus Cool, we will just test on "pmac-generation : NuBus" then. > > 2) What kernel are you using, and what configuration file. I will try to > > make a kernel package of it. Ideal would be to either use a 2.4.27 or > > 2.6.8 > > based kernel, but i have the suspision that the nubus pmacs only run with > > the mklinux kernels, right ? > > > Kernel is Linux version 2.4.27 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version > 3.3.4 (Debian 1:3.3.4-13)) #1 Sun Dec 5 04:54:40 EST 2004 > > Built from the bitkeeper repository at > bk://nubus-pmac.bkbits.net/linuxppc-2.4-nubus > > Config file is attached. Ok, i will extract it and build a kernel. I would appreciate if you could become co-maintainer of that kernel package or something, do you feel like it ? It will be kernel-image-2.4.27-nubus, i think. Damn, it is a bk stuff, could you be so kind as to extract the diff against the debian 2.4.27 kernel-source, and send me that ? I don't have bk installed here. If we do it right, i will upload the package this WE, altough it will be in the NEW queue for now. I will try to make you a custom d-i available also, for you to test. How is the initrd situation for the mklinux bootloader, can it boot a vmlinux + initrd, or does it need some other special target. > > Well, other stuff too, i guess, but let's start with that. > > > > Obviously, the other way to work around this, is to create a dummy kernel > > package that you can then chose to install, but let's do the right fix > > first. > > > > Friendly, > > > > Sven Luther > > > I'd be happy to provide whatever assistance I can in making this easier > for others. I plan on starting work on porting the NuBus PPC stuff to > 2.6 during my vacation later this month. Ok, thanks, that would be great. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
