On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 07:38:23PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 12:21:17PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > The problem is that there is no way to automatically determine the > > "best choice". > > I disagree. > > > There are common setups contradicting each other, > > Can you name them?
There are still ISPs not offering a Smarthost. And if they offer a smarthost, the range of having authentication, no authentication, SMTP AUTH, SMTP after POP, TLS, no TLS, is rather broad. > > and the only way to reliably determine which setup does apply to the > > local situation is to ask the user. > > I agree; however, I'm not convinced that the way exim4 currently does > this is the most appropriate one. I am open to suggestions. Back when the exim4 packages were developed, we mainly copied what exim 3 did and debconfed the questions. > > Frankly, I don't think that there is any chance of simplifying the > > setup of exim4. mail is rocket science, > > Certainly not. Everone uses it; it's ubiquitous. Almost nobody gets it right, and the mechanisms behind it are by far the most complex every-day internet service. Even DNS is simpler. > > and it should be avoided in a newbie setup - they tend to only use web > > mail anyway. > > So, then cater for a default configuration that keeps that in mind. That default configuration would be "no local MTA at all". Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

