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and subject line Bug#402856: wishlist: icedove/thunderbird has backwards MMDDYY
date format
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Package: icedove
Version: 1.5.0.8.dfsg1-1
Severity: wishlist
icedove displays mesage dates in MMDDYY format, which is really jarring
for anyone used to the sane DDMMYY or even saner YYYYMMDD formats - it's
impossible to tell what date is actually being displayed without viewing
enough other dates (with day numbers above 12) to figure out if the
first two digits are indicating Day or Month.
this wouldn't normally warrant a bug report, except that there does
not appear to be any configuration option to set date style. so
icedove/thunderbird users are stuck with the braindamaged US date style.
please fix or send this report upstream.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: 4.0
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.17
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Versions of packages icedove depends on:
ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.9 Debian configuration management sy
ii libatk1.0-0 1.12.3-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii libcairo2 1.2.4-4 The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii libfontconfig1 2.4.1-2 generic font configuration library
ii libgcc1 1:4.1.1-20 GCC support library
ii libglib2.0-0 2.12.4-2 The GLib library of C routines
ii libgtk2.0-0 2.8.20-3 The GTK+ graphical user interface
ii libjpeg62 6b-13 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG
ii libpango1.0-0 1.14.8-2 Layout and rendering of internatio
ii libpng12-0 1.2.13-4 PNG library - runtime
ii libstdc++6 4.1.1-20 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii libx11-6 2:1.0.3-4 X11 client-side library
ii libxcursor1 1.1.7-4 X cursor management library
ii libxext6 1:1.0.1-2 X11 miscellaneous extension librar
ii libxfixes3 1:4.0.1-5 X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio
ii libxft2 2.1.8.2-8 FreeType-based font drawing librar
ii libxi6 1:1.0.1-4 X11 Input extension library
ii libxinerama1 1:1.0.1-4.1 X11 Xinerama extension library
ii libxrandr2 2:1.1.0.2-5 X11 RandR extension library
ii libxrender1 1:0.9.1-3 X Rendering Extension client libra
ii libxt6 1:1.0.2-2 X11 toolkit intrinsics library
ii myspell-en-au [myspell-dic 2.1-3 English_australian dictionary for
ii myspell-en-gb [myspell-dic 1:2.0.4~rc1-3 English_british dictionary for mys
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3-13 compression library - runtime
icedove recommends no packages.
-- debconf information:
* icedove/browser: GNOME
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On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 10:24:25AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> what i said was that most apps that display dates allow the user
> to change the date format. requiring the user to mess about with
> environment variables (and probably also edit the prefs for the app's
> desktop icon to set the env var when launching) isn't really good
> enough.
>
> it's fine for a text-mode app like mutt where you can assume that the
> user is comfortable with that kind of thing, but not for a GUI app where
> you can only assume that the user is fairly naive.
>
I see your point ... but naive users don't install debian from scratch
either :) ... but in practice it appears to just work (TM) ... and
that should be the basic idea ... and iirc there has been exactly 1
other complain since I am maintaining thunderbird and iirc it was due
to the user being a semi-expert tweaking his locale settings by hand
... so in fact I don't see that this is a real-life problem for other
users than those with a broken setup :-P.
So ... if you really want to see a UI for date format tweaking in
thunderbird you should really consider to go upstream. I would just be
a bad proxy as I am not convinced (if there is a problem at all) that
adding a UI to thunderbird is the right way to go.
In consequence, I close this bug for now. Feel free to reopen for
reference ... however I will set it to wontfix then. Sorry.
- Alexander
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