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Package: rsync
Version: 2.3.2-1.1
Severity: normal

Given -v, rsync lists all files whose times are off, even if no data
is transferred.  Here is a demonstration.  I've cut out the 2 statistics
lines from each invocation to make the problem more clear.

    $ echo foo > foo
    $ rsync -v foo $HOST:bar
    foo
    $ rsync -v foo $HOST:bar
    foo
    $ rsync --times -v foo $HOST:bar
    foo
    $ rsync -v foo $HOST:bar        
    $ _

-- System Information
Debian Release: potato
Architecture: i386
Kernel: Linux jones 2.2.12-jones.1 #1 Sun Oct 3 21:08:45 EDT 1999 i686

Versions of packages rsync depends on:
ii  libc6                         2.1.2-11   GNU C Library: Shared libraries an

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Subject: Re: rsync: --checksums apparently not implied by lack of --times option
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On Tue 18 Feb 2003, Charles C. Fu wrote:
> 
> I would suggest changing the man page to reflect the actual behavior.  That 
> is change the
> man page, which currently says the following:
[...]
> 
> Edit rsync.1.gz so that it results in the following text (changed lines 
> marked with ! and
> not re-wrapped here to make the deletion clear):
> 
>        -t, --times
>               This  tells  rsync  to  transfer modification times
>               along with the files and update them on the  remote
>               system.   Note that if this option is not used, the
>               optimization that excludes files that have not been
>               modified  cannot  be  effective;  in other words, a
>               missing -t or -a will cause the  next  transfer  to
> !             behave  as  if  it used -I, and all files will
> !             show up  in  log  mes-
>               sages even if they haven't changed.

The current manpage says:

              This  tells  rsync to transfer modification times along with the
              files and update them on the remote system.  Note that  if  this
              option  is  not  used, the optimization that excludes files that
              have not been modified cannot be effective; in  other  words,  a
              missing -t or -a will cause the next transfer to behave as if it
              used -I, causing all files to be updated (though the rsync algo-
              rithm will make the update fairly efficient if the files haven't
              actually changed, you're much better off using -t).

IMHO this appropriately describes the situation clearly, so I'm now
closing this bug report.


Paul Slootman


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