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Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 28 Mar 2005 13:11:17 +0000 >From [email protected] Mon Mar 28 05:11:17 2005 Return-path: <[email protected]> Received: from smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1DFu1U-0003ph-00; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:11:17 -0800 Received: from [66.81.216.156] (helo=localhost) by smtpauth01.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DFu1K-00018Z-Hx for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:11:14 -0500 Received: from karsten by localhost with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DFu0Z-0003Xp-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:10:19 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Karsten M. Self" <[email protected]> To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: debian-installer-manual: Partitioning size guidelines (appendix B) should be increased X-Mailer: reportbug 3.8 Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:10:18 -0800 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: "Karsten M. Self" <[email protected]> X-ELNK-Trace: fb8b5507a77b41ab6f36dc87813833b231f964467e38cbea57a55cd530d406bba6b8b3057b4df40c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.81.216.156 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-7.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_01,HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 X-Spam-Level: Package: debian-installer-manual Severity: normal Section Appendix B.2 of the Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide covers partitioning of new systems. I maintain a popular and frequently referenced guide on GNU/Linux partitioning, and feel the size specs given are small relative to current system needs (and likely to be increasingly insufficient). My guide can be found at: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html Specifically, rationale: - / (root) filesystem: 100 MiB is too small, given current kernels, particularly if stock kernels with large numbers of modules are installed. Current 2.6.x kernel + module runs over 40 MiB currently, future kernels will likely be larger. 150 MiB minimum, and 250 MiB suggested size. - /usr: While a light system can fit into 500 MiB or less, a rich workstation or server environment (particularly with extensive documentation -- HOWTOs, RFCs, and optional documents) will exceed 3 GiB. Given likely future growth, suggesting 4-5 GiB, space allowing, is recommended. - /home: Current recommendation is good. My own suggestion is to allocate balance of space (after system partitions are allocated) to /home. For small-disk installs, I generally symlink /home under /usr/home. - /var: Current recommendation is good. - /tmp: I'd double the minimum config to 40-100 MiB. Some tools (xcdroast, mc) use /tmp for temporary files including of potentially large ISO or compressed file images. My current /tmp config is 250 MiB, and is now at 20% utilization. Disk is cheap. Suggested rewrite: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The following is a list of important considerations regarding directories and partitions. Note that disk usage varies widely given system configuration and specific usage patterns. The recommendations here should apply to a typical workstation or server configuration. - The root partition / must always physically contain /etc, /bin, /sbin, /lib and /dev, otherwise you won't be able to boot. Typically 150 MB is needed for the root partition, but this may vary. - /usr: all user programs (/usr/bin), libraries (/usr/lib), documentation (/usr/share/doc), etc., are in this directory. This part of the file system needs most of the space. You should provide at least 500 MB of disk space. If you want to install more packages you should increase the amount of space you give this directory. A generous workstation or server install should allow 4-6 GiB. - /home: every user will put his data into a subdirectory of this directory. The size of this depends on how many users will be using the system and what files are to be stored in their directories. Depending on your planned usage you should reserve about 100 MB for each user, but adapt this value to your needs. - /var: all variable data like news articles, e-mails, web sites, the packaging system cache, etc. will be placed under this directory. The size of this directory depends greatly on the usage of your computer, but for most people will be dictated by the package management tool's overhead. If you are going to do a full installation of just about everything Debian has to offer, all in one session, setting aside 2 or 3 gigabytes of space for /var should be sufficient. If you are going to install in pieces (that is to say, install services and utilities, followed by text stuff, then X, ...), you can get away with 300-500 megabytes in /var. If hard drive space is at a premium and you don't plan on doing major system updates, you can get by with as little as 30 or 40 megabytes in /var. - /tmp: if a program creates temporary data it will most likely go in /tmp. 40-100 MB should usually be enough. Some applications including archive manipulators, CD/DVD authoring tools, and multimedia software may use /tmp for temporarially storing image files. Allow > 700 MiB for CD and > 2 GiB for DVDs, on such systems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers testing APT policy: (950, 'testing') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.7-1-686 Locale: LANG=en_US, LC_CTYPE=en_US (charmap=ISO-8859-1) --------------------------------------- Received: (at 301800-done) by bugs.debian.org; 14 Apr 2005 16:44:47 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 14 09:44:47 2005 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from smtp-out3.tiscali.nl [195.241.79.178] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1DM7SR-0001Kf-00; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:44:47 -0700 Received: from strider.fjphome.nl (195-240-184-66-mx.xdsl.tiscali.nl [195.240.184.66]) by smtp-out3.tiscali.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64894801163B; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:44:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Karsten M. Self" <[email protected]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bug#301800: debian-installer-manual: Partitioning size guidelines (appendix B) should be increased Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 18:44:44 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_01,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 X-Spam-Level: On Monday 28 March 2005 15:10, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Section Appendix B.2 of the Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide covers > partitioning of new systems. I maintain a popular and frequently > referenced guide on GNU/Linux partitioning, and feel the size specs > given are small relative to current system needs (and likely to be > increasingly insufficient). Thank you very much for these suggestions. I have followed your suggestions to increase recommended sizes. I've modified the explanatory notes for the different directories, partly using your suggestions. I've also added /media and /sys in the list of directories present on a Debian system just above this section. The new version of this section will be available at [1] from tomorrow or Saturday. [1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apbs02.html Cheers, FJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
