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Package: dictionaries-common
Version: 0.25.9
Severity: normal
Steps to reproduce:
apt-get install dictionaries-common aspell-sv (or some other)
apt-get install --reinstall emacs21
This likely results in dpkg failing noisily upon running the emacs-install
script for some completely unrelated Emacs package. You won't be able to get
your Emacs back unless you first remove dictionaries-common. Then you can
install Emacs, and finally put back dictionaries-common if you like.
This becomes a real problem when you want to install a new Emacs flavor
(something which also provokes this bug). The worst part may be that the
error messages give no hint about what is really causing the problem.
The problem is that /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el calls
(load "/var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-dicts.el" t)
and /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-dicts.el calls
(debian-ispell-add-dictionary-entry ...)
which causes the autoload for `debian-ispell-add-dictionary-entry' to attempt
to load the library "debian-ispell". Here's where things break down.
When an Emacs flavor is about to be installed, there will obviously be no
byte-compiled files in /usr/share/$flavor/site-lisp/dictionaries-common.
Yet this is the only directory that 50dictionaries-common.el adds to
`load-path' before attempting to load "debian-ispell".
As this error prevents Emacs from starting properly, all attempts to *create*
the byte-compiled files neccessary to allow Emacs to start will fail.
I don't know what would be a good solution in this case, but you may find it
helpful to know that I've filed a similar couple of bugs on the dictionary-el
and BBDB packages (Bug#308335 and Bug#308336, respectively) --- which also
cause this same problem.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: 3.1
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.7-drlion-8
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Versions of packages dictionaries-common depends on:
ii debconf 1.4.49 Debian configuration management sy
ii perl 5.8.4-8 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction
-- debconf information:
dictionaries-common/invalid_debconf_value:
dictionaries-common/ispell-autobuildhash-message:
dictionaries-common/move_old_usr_dict: true
dictionaries-common/selecting_ispell_wordlist_default:
dictionaries-common/default-ispell:
dictionaries-common/default-wordlist:
dictionaries-common/old_wordlist_link: true
dictionaries-common/remove_old_usr_dict_link: false
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On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 10:17:12AM +0200, Daniel Brockman wrote:
> I'm sorry, I don't think this is reproducible on any system but mine.
> Further investigation revealed that my debian-startup.el had this
>
> (condition-case ()
> (load file nil)
> (message "Error while loading %s" file)))
>
> instead of this,
>
> (condition-case ()
> (load file nil)
> (error (message "Error while loading %s" file))))
>
> which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I don't know how and when
> this happened, but it explains all the problems I had, and a simple
> reinstall fixed it.
No problem, closing this bug report. Thanks for the info.
> There are quite a lot of these though: Here are some examples of
> packages whose install scripts invoke Emacs without --no-site-file:
>
> - auctex
> - css-mode
> - cedet-common
> - ede
> - eieio
> - elib
> - emacsen-common (!)
> - semantic
> - speedbar
>
> Would it be inappropriate to start filing bugs to these packages?
> I s'pose I'd put them as enhancments, but there'd be lots of them.
Looking into my /etc/emacs/site-start.d/ dir the only file that seems
debian-global is 00debian-vars.el, and I doubt that any of the above
packages (with the possible exception of emacsen-common) requires loading
even it when byte-compiling (not to mention the other startup scripts).
I also noticed that in the example code appearing in the debian-emacs policy
at the emacsen-common package the use of {-}-no-start-file is not suggested.
I will write Rob Browning about this, I think it should, but I might be
missing something. Being the example this way means that some maintainers
will follow it without realizing if the startups scripts are really needed
when byte-compiling stuff.
Making maintainers aware of this problem with a low severity bug report
seems appropriate to me. If they have a good reason for the current behavior
they can close the bug report, but is archived so further potential reporters
know that there is a reason for that. Since this is mostly disturbing, but
harmless maintainers can defer a real fix until sarge is released.
A change in the policy document is not possible until sarge releases, but if
Rob agrees severities can be later raised.
Cheers,
--
Agustin
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