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Package: libuuid1
Version: 1.40.2-1+lenny1
Severity: important

The postinst uses useradd to add a user/group. Policy section 9.2.2 says:

  Packages which need a user or group, but can have this user or
  group allocated dynamically and differently on each system, should use
  adduser --system to create the group and/or user. adduser will check for
  the existence of the user or group, and if necessary choose an unused id
  based on the ranges specified in adduser.conf."

Using useradd directly will ignore any user tuning of the ranges used in
adduser.conf.

Thanks.
Michael Spang


-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (250, 'unstable'), (250, 'stable'), (1, 
'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.25-0-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_CA.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_CA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages libuuid1 depends on:
ii  libc6                         2.7-6      GNU C Library: Shared libraries

libuuid1 recommends no packages.

-- no debconf information



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On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 08:34:46PM -0400, Michael Spang wrote:
> Package: libuuid1
> Version: 1.40.2-1+lenny1
> Severity: important
> 
> The postinst uses useradd to add a user/group. Policy section 9.2.2 says:
> 
>   Packages which need a user or group, but can have this user or
>   group allocated dynamically and differently on each system, should use
>   adduser --system to create the group and/or user. adduser will check for
>   the existence of the user or group, and if necessary choose an unused id
>   based on the ranges specified in adduser.conf."
> 
> Using useradd directly will ignore any user tuning of the ranges used in
> adduser.conf.

Debian policy distinguishes between "should" and "must" (see Policy
section 1.1).  Hence this isn't a policy violation, and thus does not
qualify as an automatic important bug status.

Actually, I originally used adduser, and got complaints from people
that adduser was getting dragged in unnecessarily.  To quote from the
git log:

commit 46e770b2e23c18d27c351207601c0222484d6681
Author: Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Mon Dec 31 22:22:46 2007 -0500

    debian: Use useradd and groupadd in favor of adduser
    
    The adduser package is 'important', and while it is often installed,
    we can't guarantee that it will always be there.  A required package,
    or a package which is dragged in by a required package, such as
    libuuid1, shouldn't depend on an 'important' package since that would
    implicitly make it be required, which shouldn't be done unless
    absolutely necesary.
    
    So we replace the call to adduser with the lower-level useradd and
    groupadd programs.  They are part of the passwd package, which is
    required to be on all Debian systems.
    
    Signed-off-by: "Theodore Ts'o" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I also floated the trial balloon of using a fixed uid, but that got
shot down, because people didn't think it was important enough.

Hence, my use of useradd because that got the fewest flame from the
Debian rules mavens.

I will gladly accept a patch which manually parses adduser.conf and
passes said information to useradd, but I don't care enough to change
it.  In my mind, the fact that a required package is dragging in
libuuid1, and we don't want to effectively promote adduser to
"required" is enough of a justification to override the normal
"should" recommendation in debian-policy.  It is, after all a
"should", not a "must".

                                        - Ted


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