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Package: apt-cacher
Version: 0.8.6
Severity: wishlist

It would be useful if apt-cacher could be taught that
security.debian.org updates 'asynchronously' to other 
mirrors. Either by setting a lower expiry threshold or simply
by not caching the packages list at all (.deb files would still
be cached).

The reason is that apt-cacher uses an 8 hour timeout by default,
this means that any security updates which are released do not 
show up until this timeout has expired and the new list is 
downloaded.

I can work around the problem by:
  - manually deleting the cached lists from the apt-cacher server
    (ick!)
  - using a sources.list which bypasses the cache. This is a pain
    for large security updates on multiple machines since the .deb
    is not cached.
  - turning down the global expire value. This is non-optimal
    for all the non-security sources which only update once per
    day or so.

But I think it would be nice it apt-cacher could handle the situation
itself.

Thanks,
Ian.

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Subject: Re: Bug#312322: apt-cacher: would be useful to independantly control 
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#include <hallo.h>
* Ian Campbell [Tue, Jun 07 2005, 01:25:17PM]:
> Package: apt-cacher
> Version: 0.8.6
> Severity: wishlist
...
> The reason is that apt-cacher uses an 8 hour timeout by default,
> this means that any security updates which are released do not 
> show up until this timeout has expired and the new list is 
> downloaded.

This is no longer true for the version 0.9.4 in Debian Stable ;-).
There it does check the index file validity by looking at server's HTTP
headers (by default, see comments in apt-cacher.conf).

Regards,
Eduard.

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