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and subject line Re: Bug#535034: gnome should not depend on gnome-games
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Package: gnome
Version: 1:2.24.3~2squeeze1
Severity: wishlist


gnome requires gnome-games which leads to even more bloat. Surely 
gnome-games (and probably other stuff) should be optional? Or do we need 
a gnome-minimal package?

Debian systems used to be elegant and efficient, but there seems to be a
recent trend towards bloat and trying to ape Redmond. That was one of 
the many reasons some of us fled from there many years ago :-)

I realize that one can remove gnome and replace with a selection of 
packages, but that is very tedious and long winded.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.30_exact
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages gnome depends on:
ii  arj                   3.10.22-6          archiver for .arj files
ii  avahi-daemon          0.6.25-1           Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon
ii  bluez-gnome           0.27-1             Bluetooth utilities for GNOME
ii  epiphany-extensions   2.26.1-1           Extensions for Epiphany web browse
ii  evolution-exchange    2.26.1-2           Exchange plugin for the Evolution 
ii  evolution-plugins     2.26.1.1-2         standard plugins for Evolution
ii  evolution-webcal      2.24.0-1           webcal: URL handler for GNOME and 
ii  gdm-themes            0.6.2              Themes for the GNOME Display Manag
ii  gedit-plugins         2.26.1-1           set of plugins for gedit
ii  gnome-app-install     0.5.24-1           GNOME Application Installer
ii  gnome-desktop-environ 1:2.24.3~2squeeze1 The GNOME Desktop Environment
ii  gnome-games           1:2.26.2-1         games for the GNOME desktop
ii  gnome-network-admin   2.22.1-5           GNOME Network Administration Tool
ii  gnome-themes-extras   2.22.0-3           extra themes for the GNOME desktop
ii  gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg  0.10.7-1           FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins 0.10.12-1          GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" 
ii  libpam-gnome-keyring  2.26.1-1           PAM module to unlock the GNOME key
ii  rhythmbox             0.12.1-1           music player and organizer for GNO
ii  serpentine            0.9-6              An application for creating audio 
ii  swfdec-mozilla        0.8.2-1            Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macr
ii  synaptic              0.62.6             Graphical package manager
ii  system-config-printer 1.0.0-6            graphical interface to configure t
ii  totem-mozilla         2.26.2-1           Totem Mozilla plugin
ii  transmission-gtk      1.72-1             lightweight BitTorrent client (gra

Versions of packages gnome recommends:
ii  epiphany-extensions-more     2.26.0      Collection of third-party extensio
pn  gdebi                        <none>      (no description available)
pn  gnome-games-extra-data       <none>      (no description available)
pn  gnome-office                 <none>      (no description available)
ii  gparted                      0.4.5-2     GNOME partition editor
ii  gthumb                       3:2.10.11-2 an image viewer and browser
ii  hal-cups-utils               0.6.16-3    Utilities to detect and configure 
ii  hardinfo                     0.5c-1      Displays system information
ii  liferea                      1.4.27-1    feed aggregator for GNOME
ii  menu-xdg                     0.4         freedesktop.org menu compliant win
pn  tomboy                       <none>      (no description available)
pn  tsclient                     <none>      (no description available)
pn  update-notifier              <none>      (no description available)

Versions of packages gnome suggests:
pn  gnome-dbg                     <none>     (no description available)
ii  openoffice.org-evolution      1:3.0.1-9  full-featured office productivity 
ii  openoffice.org-gnome          1:3.0.1-9  full-featured office productivity 

Versions of packages gnome-desktop-environment depends on:
ii  alacarte      0.12.1-1                   easy GNOME menu editing tool
ii  cheese        2.24.3-2                   A tool to take pictures and videos
ii  deskbar-apple 2.24.3-1+b2                universal search and navigation ba
ii  desktop-base  5.0.5                      common files for the Debian Deskto
ii  dmz-cursor-th 0.4.1                      Style neutral, scalable cursor the
ii  ekiga         3.2.1~git20090515.9d0263-1 H.323 and SIP compatible VoIP clie
ii  empathy       2.26.2-1                   High-level library and user-interf
ii  epiphany-brow 2.26.1-1                   Intuitive web browser - dummy pack
ii  epiphany-geck 2.26.1-1                   Intuitive GNOME web browser - Geck
ii  evince        2.26.1-2                   Document (postscript, pdf) viewer
ii  evolution     2.26.1.1-2                 groupware suite with mail client a
ii  evolution-dat 2.26.1.1-2                 evolution database backend server
ii  fast-user-swi 2.24.0-2                   Applet for the GNOME panel providi
ii  file-roller   2.26.2-1                   an archive manager for GNOME
ii  gcalctool     5.26.2-1                   GNOME desktop calculator
ii  gconf-editor  2.26.0-1                   An editor for the GConf configurat
ii  gdm           2.20.9-1                   GNOME Display Manager
ii  gksu          2.0.2-2+b1                 graphical frontend to su
ii  gnome-about   2.26.1-1                   The GNOME about box
ii  gnome-backgro 2.24.1-1                   a set of backgrounds packaged with
ii  gnome-core    1:2.24.3~2squeeze1         The GNOME Desktop Environment -- e
ii  gnome-keyring 2.26.1-1                   GNOME keyring services (daemon and
ii  gnome-media   2.26.0-1                   GNOME media utilities
ii  gnome-mount   0.8-2                      wrapper for (un)mounting and eject
ii  gnome-netstat 2.12.2-1                   Network status applet for GNOME 2
ii  gnome-nettool 2.22.1-1                   network information tool for GNOME
ii  gnome-power-m 2.24.4-2                   power management tool for the GNOM
ii  gnome-screens 2.24.1-2+b1                GNOME screen saver and locker
ii  gnome-system- 2.24.4-1                   Process viewer and system resource
ii  gnome-system- 2.22.1-5                   Cross-platform configuration utili
ii  gnome-themes  2.26.2-1                   official themes for the GNOME desk
ii  gnome-user-gu 2.24.2-2                   GNOME user's guide
ii  gnome-utils   2.26.0-1                   GNOME desktop utilities
ii  gnome-volume- 2.24.1-3                   GNOME daemon to auto-mount and man
ii  gstreamer0.10 0.10.23-3                  GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  gstreamer0.10 0.10.23-3                  GStreamer plugins from the "base" 
ii  gstreamer0.10 0.10.15-2                  GStreamer plugins from the "good" 
ii  gstreamer0.10 0.10.23-2                  Tools for use with GStreamer
ii  gtk2-engines  1:2.16.1-2                 theme engines for GTK+ 2.x
ii  gucharmap     1:2.24.3-1                 Unicode character picker and font 
ii  gvfs-backends 1.2.2-2                    userspace virtual filesystem - bac
ii  gvfs-bin      1.2.2-2                    userspace virtual filesystem - bin
ii  hamster-apple 2.24.3-1                   time tracking applet for GNOME
ii  iceweasel-gno 3.0.9-1                    Support for GNOME in Iceweasel
ii  libgnome2-per 1.042-2                    Perl interface to the GNOME librar
ii  libgnomevfs2- 1:2.24.1-1                 GNOME Virtual File System (extra m
ii  nautilus-cd-b 2.24.0-3                   CD Burning front-end for Nautilus
ii  seahorse      2.26.1-2                   GNOME front end for GnuPG
ii  seahorse-plug 2.26.1-1                   seahorse plugins and utilities for
ii  sound-juicer  2.24.0-2                   GNOME 2 CD Ripper
ii  swfdec-gnome  2.26.0-1                   Tools to play SWF files (Macromedi
ii  totem-gstream 2.26.2-1                   A simple media player for the GNOM
ii  totem-plugins 2.26.2-1                   Plugins for the Totem media player
ii  vinagre       2.24.2-3                   VNC client for the GNOME Desktop
ii  vino          2.24.1-3                   VNC server for GNOME
ii  zenity        2.26.0-1                   Display graphical dialog boxes fro

Versions of packages gnome-core depends on:
ii  eog                        2.26.2-1      Eye of GNOME graphics viewer progr
ii  gedit                      2.26.1-1      official text editor of the GNOME 
ii  gnome-applets              2.24.3.1-2+b1 Various applets for GNOME 2 panel 
ii  gnome-control-center       1:2.24.0.1-5  utilities to configure the GNOME d
ii  gnome-icon-theme           2.26.0-1      GNOME Desktop icon theme
ii  gnome-menus                2.26.1-1      an implementation of the freedeskt
ii  gnome-panel                2.24.3-1+b1   launcher and docking facility for 
ii  gnome-session              2.22.3-3      The GNOME 2 Session Manager
ii  gnome-settings-daemon      2.24.1-3      daemon handling the GNOME session 
ii  gnome-terminal             2.26.2-1      The GNOME terminal emulator applic
ii  gvfs                       1.2.2-2       userspace virtual filesystem - ser
ii  metacity                   1:2.26.0-3    lightweight GTK+ window manager
ii  nautilus                   2.26.3-1      file manager and graphical shell f
ii  yelp                       2.26.0-1      Help browser for GNOME

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Le lundi 29 juin 2009 à 08:02 +0100, ael a écrit :
> gnome requires gnome-games which leads to even more bloat. Surely 
> gnome-games (and probably other stuff) should be optional? Or do we need 
> a gnome-minimal package?

You already have gnome-core and gnome-desktop-environment.

We are not going to add new metapackages for each possible package
combination that people might want. The brdesktop-gnome joke is already
more than enough.

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