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--- Begin Message ---Package: apt Version: 0.5.4 Severity: normal File: /usr/bin/apt-get We are told to put cdroms at the top of sources.list if we want priority. however, lets explore using apt_preferences, shall we? In even the Kleinmann version of the apt_preferences man page, we see A note of caution: the keyword used in the APT prefer- ences file to select the source site is "origin". This may lead one to confuse the source site with the "Ori- gin:" of a release as specified in a Release file. Recall that what follows the "Origin:" tag in a Release file generally is not an Internet site address but an author or vendor name, such as "Debian" or "Ximian". This second-form entry in the APT preferences file applies only to groups of packages. For example, the following record causes APT to assign a high priority to all package instances available from the local site: Package: * Pin: origin "" Pin-Priority: 999 however it turns out that one cannot really use it to alter the origin beyond that, at least guessing the format as it has never been documented, or at least for unlucky me. I have found that Pin: origin will match anything (and indeed one can use two Pin lines [documented?]) and, Pin: origin anycharshere will match nothing. Proof: $ apt-cache policy enamdict enamdict: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2002.04.25-2 Version Table: 2002.04.25-2 0 500 http://debian.linux.org.tw sid/non-free Packages 500 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux SID _Sid_ - fsn.hu unofficial i386 Binary-10 (20021010)] unstable/non-free Packages I say that there is nothing you can do to Package: * Pin: origin ----------- Pin-Priority: 503 to make it match one line and not the other. E.g. Pin: origin will affect both Pin: origin http://debian.linux.org.tw will affect neither. Pin: origin * will affect neither. Wait! holy moly Pin: origin debian.linux.org.tw works! OK, please use it as an example. Please document it! BTW: therefore you discard http vs. ftp! bad or document what is workaround. don't get mad at me, i'm pointing out a big lack of documentation, please! wildcards dont work in hostnames it seems. ok, say so. OK, how in the world can one use Pin: origin with the above cdrom line? Tried many ways, I did. document please. more discoveries for you to document: Pin: origin debian.linux.org.tw security.debian.org ruins it for debian.linux.org.tw OK, now via Package: * Pin: origin debian.linux.org.tw Pin-Priority: 111 Package: * Pin: origin Pin-Priority: 888 we do: # apt-cache policy enamdict; apt-get --print-uris -q install enamdict enamdict: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2002.04.25-2 Version Table: 2002.04.25-2 0 111 http://debian.linux.org.tw sid/non-free Packages 888 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux SID _Sid_ - fsn.hu unofficial i386 Binary-10 (20021010)] unstable/non-free Packages Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... The following NEW packages will be installed: enamdict 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1689kB of archives. After unpacking 6631kB will be used. 'http://debian.linux.org.tw/debian/pool/non-free/e/edict/enamdict_2002.04.25-2_all.deb' enamdict_2002.04.25-2_all.deb 1689438 22856f706a3ee4f9c1c0a66cdb380b88 we see that priorities are all bunk: 111 vs. 888 and it still chooses 111. So why differentiate all the numbers between 100 and 990 if in fact they are all the same. why not just call them "priority C" or something. Ok enough for today. No, wait: cd /etc/apt/ apt-cache policy enamdict; apt-get --print-uris -q install enamdict enamdict: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2002.04.25-2 Version Table: 2002.04.25-2 0 -1 http://debian.linux.org.tw sid/non-free Packages 1991 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux SID _Sid_ - fsn.hu unofficial i386 Binary-10 (20021010)] unstable/non-free Packages Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... The following NEW packages will be installed: enamdict 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1689kB of archives. After unpacking 6631kB will be used. 'http://debian.linux.org.tw/debian/pool/non-free/e/edict/enamdict_2002.04.25-2_all.deb' enamdict_2002.04.25-2_all.deb 1689438 22856f706a3ee4f9c1c0a66cdb380b88 you see, i separated the priorities so much and it still goes for the first one! OK, now I put the cdrom stuff on top of sources.list and even run apt-get update again... same deal! indeed the only way to get it to choose the cdrom was to take the other source out of sources.list! perhaps you doubt that i havent tweaked something bad, ok, see, nothing funny here: :::::::::::::: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10jidanni :::::::::::::: APT::Get::List-Cleanup false; :::::::::::::: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf :::::::::::::: // Pre-configure all packages with debconf before they are installed. // If you don't like it, comment it out. DPkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs {"/usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true";}; Wait: I am able to produce apt-cache policy enamdict; apt-get --print-uris -q install enamdict enamdict: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2002.04.25-2 Version Table: 2002.04.25-2 0 -1 cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux SID _Sid_ - fsn.hu unofficial i386 Binary-10 (20021010)] unstable/non-free Packages 1000 http://debian.linux.org.tw sid/non-free Packages Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... The following NEW packages will be installed: enamdict 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 723 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/1689kB of archives. After unpacking 6631kB will be used. 'cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux SID _Sid_ - fsn.hu unofficial i386 Binary-10 (20021010)]/pool/non-free/e/edict/enamdict_2002.04.25-2_all.deb' enamdict_2002.04.25-2_all.deb 1689438 22856f706a3ee4f9c1c0a66cdb380b88 OK, lets do an experiment...never mind, i will instead tell you what happens: 1. if both sources are in sources.list, any priority number biz is ignored! 2. if one wants one to be installed rather than the other, he moves it above the other in sources.list 3. this is not enough. apt-get is still not affected. You must at least make one change, more than just the ordering, of the sources.list file, probably so apt-get will recreate some database. I recommend, until this undeniable bug clump is fixed, that the user comment out one of the lines in his sources.list, run apt-get whatever, e.g. --print-uris, then restore that commented line to its original state. only then will he enjoy the benefits of "reordering ones sources.list". 4. as far as apt_preferences... well, kindly make it work as advertised here. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux debian 2.4.19-k7 #1 Sun Oct 6 20:29:56 EST 2002 i686 Locale: LANG=zh_TW.Big5, LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.Big5 Versions of packages apt depends on: ii libc6 2.3.1-9 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an ii libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 1:2.95.4-12 The GNU stdc++ library -- no debconf information
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--- Begin Message ---Version: 0.8.15.6 * apt-pkg/pkgcachegen.cc: - regenerate the cache if the sources.list changes to ensure that changes in the ordering there will be honored by apt Sounds like this bug is fixed. I am therefore closing it now, but feel free to reopen it if you disagree. Best regards David Kalnischkies
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