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and subject line Re: ttytter: curl and lynx do not provide same functionality
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regarding ttytter: curl and lynx do not provide same functionality
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Package: ttytter
Version: 2.0.1-1
Severity: normal
The debian/control file ists a dependency on curl | lynx, essentially
stating that both provide the same functionality. While ttytter can
really be used with any of the two, the defaut OAuth authentication
mechanism is not supported with lynx.
I think that the package should additionally list curl as Recommends.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (900, 'testing'), (800, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Versions of packages ttytter depends on:
ii lynx 2.8.8dev.14-1
ii perl 5.14.2-14
Versions of packages ttytter recommends:
ii libterm-readline-gnu-perl 1.20-2+b1
ii libtimedate-perl 1.2000-1
ttytter suggests no packages.
-- no debconf information
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--- Begin Message ---
Hi,
> > I'm happy with the current situation. The expression is correct: to be
> > able to use ttytter in a meaningful way, both curl and lynx are
> > possibilities. cURL is definitely preferred for full functionality,
> > therefore it's listed first. Debian's tools will always pick the first
> > available alternative and it's generally understood that the
> > dependencies are listed in order of preference.
> So far, this is right. Now, from a usability point of view, the average
> user obviously wants cURL. Seeing that ttytter won't even start up
> without complaining with only lynx installed, this is pretty clear.
> Now having:
>
> Depends: curl | lynx
> Recommends: curl
>
> would make a good point both from a linguistic and a technical point of
> view. ttytter needs either curl or lynx, but cur is definitely
> recommended. What does this mean for the user? It means that the average
> user, who has Install-Recommends enabled, gets curl, while other users,
> who cared about Install-Recommends and thus can be considered more
> advanced, get the old behaviour.
I'm afraid I still disagree. You say "both a linguistic and a technical
point of view". At the very least the second part is not correct, adding
that recommends makes no technical difference in the selection process of
APT and friends. From a 'linguistic' point of view, of course opinions may
differ but in Debian it's generally understood that package dependencies
are given in order of preference.
> I think that the average user is more likely to have lynx installed than
> curl (correct me if I'm wrong),
I doubt that's true. For one the popcon statistics point out that having
curl installed is much more likely than having lynx installed:
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=curl
http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=lynx-cur
But it must also be considered that lynx is hardly a useful text mode
browser these days, and people are much more likely to have w3m or
something along those lines installed.
Cheers,
Thijs
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