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Package: kernel-package
Version: 9.008.4
Severity: important
xmlto is required for the make-kpng kernel_doc target to work so it should
be recommended by kernel-package.
-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (990, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.13.4-debian1+libata+bluesmoke+imq+lm85
Locale: LANG=pt_BR.ISO-8859-1, LC_CTYPE=pt_BR.ISO-8859-1 (charmap=ISO-8859-1)
Versions of packages kernel-package depends on:
ii dpkg 1.13.11.0.1 package maintenance system for Deb
ii dpkg-dev 1.13.11 package building tools for Debian
ii gcc [c-compiler] 4:4.0.2-1 The GNU C compiler
ii gcc-2.95 [c-compiler] 1:2.95.4-22.1 The GNU C compiler
ii gcc-3.3 [c-compiler] 1:3.3.6-10 The GNU C compiler
ii gcc-3.4 [c-compiler] 3.4.4-9 The GNU C compiler
ii gcc-4.0 [c-compiler] 4.0.2-3 The GNU C compiler
ii gcc272 [c-compiler] 2.7.2.3-19 The GNU C compiler.
ii make 3.80-11 The GNU version of the "make" util
ii perl 5.8.7-7 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction
Versions of packages kernel-package recommends:
ii bzip2 1.0.2-10 high-quality block-sorting file co
ii libc6-dev [libc-dev] 2.3.5-7 GNU C Library: Development Librari
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Subject: kernel-package: missing recommends on xmlto (kernel_doc target)
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Hi,
kernel-package has always been version agnostic, and does not
ever pretend to contain all dependencies that are required to build
kernels. The documentation building requirements are fairly large,
and only relevant for recent kernels. You are probably missing the
depends on xmlto, and perhaps others
Every linux kernel has minimum requirements, as stated in the
Documentation/Changes file. These requirements, for gcc, make,
binutils, modutils, e2fsporogs, util-linux, etc, with minimum version
numbers that change from version to version (so reading can't be
avoided while building a kernel). It is not practical for
kernel-package to track all the requirements, and to change as the
requirements change. Compiling kernels still remains an activity
that requires care, and one still needs to read through documentation
of the kernel and modules in order to ensure that one gets a working
kernel. I strongly recommend that people compiling kernels should
read these docs ;-) Not having module-init-tools is only the smallest
of gotchas in a kernel compile.
This is not an omission, this has been done quite
delibrately. kernel-package does not track these versions, and tries
to be kernel version agnostic, as far as possible. And I am not going
to have the kernel-package start tracking these requirements, it is
not going to be practical. kernel-package is not a substitute for
reading kernel documentation ;-). Before making a kernel image
package, one should look into Documentation/Changes and see that one
has the minimal requirements mentioned there. kernel-package does not
have any knowledge of what is in the kernel, and it should not, since
it can then work on all kinds of kernels with no modification.
Indeed, this is somewhat of a public service -- lack of module
init tools have induced people to read the CHANGES file, and mayhap
discover other critical information ;-) People should not be
compiling kernels without reading the docs. Especially new
major/minor version upgrade kernels. And always have a way to boot
your system.
This is not without precedent; we never depended on bin86, or
deprecated new versions of gcc, or anything like that. We are not
going to start tracking per version dependencies.
manoj
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