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From: Andy Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: udev: hangs on boot without network (LDAP conflict?)
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Package: udev
Version: 0.074-2
Severity: normal

udev hangs every time on bootup for me, trying to start the daemon.  I finally
tried going through the scripts in /etc/rcS.d/ one at a time to find out that
it needed some basic networking set up; a little googling with that clue
found one person suggesting that it's a conflict with the use of LDAP in 
nsswitch.conf, which I do use (and lots of people complaining about nvidia).

(I "fixed" it by moving it to start as S41, rather than S04, and manually 
loading the network driver.)

It would be really nice if udevd could be fixed, so that it doesn't hang in
this case.

Failing that, is it possible to start it later on in the boot process, if 
ldap is present?

Failing even that, a comment in /etc/init.d/udev, or in /usr/share/doc/udev,
giving LDAP as a possible cause of bootup hangs would save some time
for other people in my position.

Thanks!

Andy

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-- Package-specific info:
-- /etc/udev/rules.d/:
/etc/udev/rules.d/:
total 0
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 20 May 28 08:26 020_permissions.rules -> 
../permissions.rules
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 19 Nov 16 23:58 025_libgphoto2.rules -> 
../libgphoto2.rules
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 12 Nov 16 16:07 050_hal-plugdev.rules -> ../hal.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 19 Dec 23  2004 cd-aliases.rules -> ../cd-aliases.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 13 Dec 23  2004 udev.rules -> ../udev.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 19 Oct  4 21:06 z20_persistent.rules -> 
../persistent.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 12 Oct  4 21:06 z50_run.rules -> ../run.rules
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 16 Nov 16 15:48 z55_hotplug.rules -> ../hotplug.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 19 Oct 16 17:36 z60_alsa-utils.rules -> 
../alsa-utils.rules
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root 17 Oct  4 21:06 z70_hotplugd.rules -> ../hotplugd.rules

-- /sys/:
/sys/block/fd0/dev
/sys/block/hda/dev
/sys/block/hda/hda1/dev
/sys/block/hda/hda2/dev
/sys/block/hda/hda3/dev
/sys/block/hdb/dev
/sys/block/hdb/hdb1/dev
/sys/block/hdc/dev
/sys/block/hdd/dev
/sys/block/ram0/dev
/sys/block/ram1/dev
/sys/block/ram10/dev
/sys/block/ram11/dev
/sys/block/ram12/dev
/sys/block/ram13/dev
/sys/block/ram14/dev
/sys/block/ram15/dev
/sys/block/ram2/dev
/sys/block/ram3/dev
/sys/block/ram4/dev
/sys/block/ram5/dev
/sys/block/ram6/dev
/sys/block/ram7/dev
/sys/block/ram8/dev
/sys/block/ram9/dev
/sys/class/input/event0/dev
/sys/class/input/event1/dev
/sys/class/input/event2/dev
/sys/class/input/event3/dev
/sys/class/input/mice/dev
/sys/class/input/mouse0/dev
/sys/class/misc/agpgart/dev
/sys/class/misc/device-mapper/dev
/sys/class/misc/psaux/dev
/sys/class/misc/rtc/dev
/sys/class/sound/adsp/dev
/sys/class/sound/audio/dev
/sys/class/sound/controlC0/dev
/sys/class/sound/dsp/dev
/sys/class/sound/mixer/dev
/sys/class/sound/pcmC0D0c/dev
/sys/class/sound/pcmC0D0p/dev
/sys/class/sound/pcmC0D1c/dev
/sys/class/sound/pcmC0D1p/dev
/sys/class/sound/seq/dev
/sys/class/sound/sequencer/dev
/sys/class/sound/sequencer2/dev
/sys/class/sound/timer/dev

-- Kernel configuration:


-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.13.4asm
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)

Versions of packages udev depends on:
ii  initscripts                   2.86.ds1-4 Standard scripts needed for bootin
ii  libc6                         2.3.5-6    GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libselinux1                   1.26-1     SELinux shared libraries
ii  libsepol1                     1.8-1      Security Enhanced Linux policy lib
ii  lsb-base                      3.0-11     Linux Standard Base 3.0 init scrip
ii  makedev                       2.3.1-79   creates device files in /dev
ii  sed                           4.1.2-8    The GNU sed stream editor

udev recommends no packages.

-- debconf information:
  udev/devfs-warning:
* udev/reboot-warning:

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On Nov 18, Andy Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> udev hangs every time on bootup for me, trying to start the daemon.  I fi=
nally
> tried going through the scripts in /etc/rcS.d/ one at a time to find out =
that
> it needed some basic networking set up; a little googling with that clue
> found one person suggesting that it's a conflict with the use of LDAP in=
=20
> nsswitch.conf, which I do use (and lots of people complaining about nvidi=
a).
It looks like your configuration is broken.
I am not sure about how it can be fixed, I do not used LDAP. But udev
needs to do these user/group lookups before anything has been loaded.

> (I "fixed" it by moving it to start as S41, rather than S04, and manually=
=20
> loading the network driver.)
This is evil and even more broken.

> It would be really nice if udevd could be fixed, so that it doesn't hang =
in
> this case.
I do not think that udev needs to be fixed, but whatever handles the
LDAP lookups instead.

> Failing that, is it possible to start it later on in the boot process, if=
=20
> ldap is present?
No way.

> Failing even that, a comment in /etc/init.d/udev, or in /usr/share/doc/ud=
ev,
> giving LDAP as a possible cause of bootup hangs would save some time
> for other people in my position.
I cannot try to document every possible broken configuration, sorry.

--=20
ciao,
Marco

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