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Package:  fileutils
Version:  3.13-4


The fileutils and tar packages provide info pages which include
the following:

  Timezone item
  =============
  
     A "timezone item" specifies an international timezone, indicated by
  a small set of letters.  Any included period is ignored.  Military
  timezone designations use a single letter.  Currently, only integral
  zone hours may be represented in a timezone item.  See the previous
  section for a finer control over the timezone correction.
  
     Here are many non-daylight-savings-time timezones, indexed by the
  zone hour value.
  
  +000
       `GMT' for Greenwich Mean, `UT' or `UTC' for Universal
       (Coordinated), `WET' for Western European and `Z' for militaries.
  [...]
  -800
       `CCT' for China Coast, USSR Zone 7 and `U' for militaries.
 
-800 (8 hours later than GMT) is the Philippines timezone.  It's
probably also central china.  However, the timezone package says
the following about timezones in China:

However:

  mitchell:mitchell$ date
  Tue Jul 15 14:09:38 PHT 1997

The problem here is the PHT timezone.  It comes from the following:

  mitchell:mitchell$ cat /etc/timezone
  Asia/Manila

and in the "asia" file in the sources for timezone-7.55:

  # Philippines
  # Howse writes (p 162) that until 1844 the Philippines kept American date.
  # The rest of this data is from Shanks.
  # Rule  NAME    FROM    TO      TYPE    IN      ON      AT      SAVE
  LETTER/S
  Rule    Phil    1936    only    -       Nov     1       0:00    1:00    S
  Rule    Phil    1937    only    -       Feb     1       0:00    0       -
  Rule    Phil    1954    only    -       Apr     12      0:00    1:00    S
  Rule    Phil    1954    only    -       Jul     1       0:00    0       -
  Rule    Phil    1978    only    -       Mar     22      0:00    1:00    S
  Rule    Phil    1978    only    -       Sep     21      0:00    0       -
  # Zone  NAME            GMTOFF  RULES   FORMAT  [UNTIL]
  Zone    Asia/Manila     -15:56:00 -     LMT     1844
                          8:04:00 -       LMT     1899 May 11
                          8:00    Phil    PH%sT   1942 May
                          9:00    -       JST     1944 Nov
                          8:00    Phil    PH%sT
  
Those "PH%sT" fields produce the "PHT" timezone in the date(1) output.

Also, the timezone package containsq the following regarding China
timezones, aqndq a timezone named "CCT":

  # People's Republic of China
  
  # From Guy Harris:
  # People's Republic of China.  Yes, they really have only one time zone.
  
  # From Bob Devine (1988-01-28):
  # No they don't.  See TIME mag, 1986-02-17 p.52.  Even though
  # China is across 4 physical time zones, before Feb 1, 1986 only the
  # Peking (Bejing) time zone was recognized.  Since that date, China
  # has two of 'em -- Peking's and Urumqi (named after the capital of
  # the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region).  I don't know about DST for it.
  #
  # . . .I just deleted the DST table and this editor makes it too
  # painful to suck in another copy..  So, here is what I have for
  # DST start/end dates for Peking's time zone (info from AP):
  #
  #     1986 May 4 - Sept 14
  #     1987 mid-April - ??
  
  # From U. S. Naval Observatory (1989-01-19):
  # CHINA               8 H  AHEAD OF UTC  ALL OF CHINA, INCL TAIWAN
  # CHINA               9 H  AHEAD OF UTC  APR 17 - SEP 10
  
  # From Paul Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (1995-12-19):
  # Shanks writes that China has had a single time zone since 1980 May 1,
  # observing summer DST from 1986 through 1991; this contradicts Devine's
  # note about Time magazine, though apparently _something_ happened in 1986.
  # Go with Shanks for now.  I made up names for the other pre-1980 time zones.
  
  # From Shanks (1991):
  # Rule  NAME    FROM    TO      TYPE    IN      ON      AT      SAVE    
LETTER/S
  Rule    Shang   1940    only    -       Jun      3      0:00    1:00    D
  Rule    Shang   1940    1941    -       Oct      1      0:00    0       S
  Rule    Shang   1941    only    -       Mar     16      0:00    1:00    D
  Rule    PRC     1949    only    -       Jan      1      0:00    0       S
  Rule    PRC     1986    only    -       May      4      0:00    1:00    D
  Rule    PRC     1986    1991    -       Sep     Sun>=11 0:00    0       S
  Rule    PRC     1987    1991    -       Apr     Sun>=10 0:00    1:00    D
  # Zone  NAME            GMTOFF  RULES   FORMAT  [UNTIL]
  Zone    Asia/Harbin     8:26:44 -       LMT     1928
                          8:30    -       HART    1932 Mar # Harbin Time
                          8:00    -       CST     1940
                          9:00    -       HART    1966 May
                          8:30    -       HART    1980 May
                          8:00    PRC     C%sT
  Zone    Asia/Shanghai   8:05:52 -       LMT     1928
                          8:00    Shang   C%sT    1949
                          8:00    PRC     C%sT
  Zone    Asia/Chungking  7:06:20 -       LMT     1928
                          7:00    -       CHUT    1980 May # Chungking Time
                          8:00    PRC     C%sT
  Zone    Asia/Urumqi     5:50:20 -       LMT     1928
                          6:00    -       URUT    1980 May # Urumqi Time
                          8:00    PRC     C%sT
  Zone    Asia/Kashgar    5:03:56 -       LMT     1928
                          5:30    -       KAST    1940     # Kashgar Time
                          5:00    -       KAST    1980 May
                          8:00    PRC     C%sT

So, it looks like the -800 timezone in China is either CST or CDT,
depending on whether Daylight Savings time is in effect; but not CCT
as the info pages in the tar and fileutils packages say.

Also, the "austrailasia" file in the timezone package contains the
following entry, which does mention CCT:

  Zone        Indian/Cocos    6:30    -       CCT     # Cocos Islands Time


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I can't find the text referred to in the current coreutils info.

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