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What is the purpose of this list?
I know that I'm not sure myself, but I know that it isn't supposed to
be for discussion of random bugs that people find, which are almost
always already known, and sometimes fixed.
My best guess understanding/interpretation is that its existence is to
provide an centralized archive of discussion related to
'upgrade-reports' [0]. debian-testing is the maintainer of that
pseudo-package, and so [new] bugs go to the list. The difference
between subscribing to d-t instead of
echo subscribe upgrade-reports |mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is just that d-t is archived. Instead of having to search through a
large number of upgrade reports, you can use debian search [1] or
google [2].
Could someone confirm to me that this is the purpose of the list?
Once that is done, can we please update its description? "users
testing debian" [3] attracts to much stuff that should go to -user,
and the rest (beside upgrade reports, which happen, at most, once
every 2 years or so) should probably go to -devel.
If my understanding is correct, I propose the following "short
description" for d-t:
Owner of the upgrade-reports pseudo-package providing an archive of new bugs
The long description should then also include a link to the bug page
[0].
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Justin
References
[0] http://bugs.debian.org/upgrade-reports
[1] http://lists.debian.org/search.html
[2] http://g.rtfo.org/site:lists.debian.org/debian-testing
[3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/
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On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 10:44:47AM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 11:57:40AM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 04:36:22PM -0000, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > > As I understand it, the purpose of the list is to find issues with
> > > "testing"
> > > relating to upgrading to it from stable or trying to install it afresh (as
> > > this would obviously be required to work once testing became stable).
> > Okay, fair enough. But the list archives are still mostly problems
> > with individual packages, or people who don't understand what
> > 'testing' is, and are having trouble because of library transitions.
> >
> > I really think that the short description has to be changed, too.
> > Presently, I think it attracts lots of people who installed redhat,
> > weren't sure if they liked it or not, so the decided to "test debian".
> > People on this lists should almost certainly be actively involved in
> > debian-development, and people posting should be too, unless they are
> > submitting an upgrade report (whether in the official format or not).
> >
> > Why did it get moved from devel to user, anyway? This is probably
> > another source of the confusion.
>
> One breaking the archives, and one having to check out webwml again later...
> How's that? ;-)
>
Closing this bug.
11:09 < pasc> pryzbyj: do you reckon that's ok then?
11:24 < pryzbyj> pasc: yes, i think so
Cheers,
Pasc
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