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and subject line Bug#1091863: fixed in meta-gnome3 1:49+1
has caused the Debian Bug report #1091863,
regarding gnome: choose what music player (if any) is installed by default in
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Package: gnome
Version: 1:47+4
Severity: important
We should choose a music player, or possibly the absence of a music
player, to be installed by default as part of the GNOME desktop task.
Various music players differ in their approach. Rhythmbox and GNOME
Music are library/database-based music players, the design popularized
by iTunes. Decibels is a simple file-based audio player, more like an
audio equivalent of totem or eog, with no library/database functionality.
Music players also differ in whether they can cope gracefully with
untagged music files, or whether they rely on correct tagging.
Historically we installed both rhythmbox and gnome-music, but I think
that's clearly wrong (#969289, #1027995, #1079596): we should pull in
at most one library/database-based music player. After merging
https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/meta-gnome3/-/merge_requests/17,
as it stands we'll only have gnome-music installed by default.
Users are of course very welcome to install a different audio player, and
there are plenty available from Debian or Flathub, both GNOME and not. I
use mpd and various clients myself, and my partner prefers Rhythmbox,
but I don't think either of those would be a good default!
Some options are:
* no music player in the default install at all
- Ubuntu does this
- I think this could be a good option
- we could add a Suggests on something if we want to
* only a simple file-based audio player
- Fedora might do this, via Decibels (GNOME Circle)
- we cannot do exactly that unless someone packages Decibels or similar
- Decibels is not in Debian and likely to be hard to package (it's
written in TypeScript)
* gnome-music
- status quo
- GNOME Core app
- popcon: 55K installs, 2K votes
- strongly relies on correct tagging
* rhythmbox
- historical default
- not particularly active maintenance any more
- popcon: 62K installs, 3K votes
* amberol
- GNOME Circle app
- popcon: tiny (it's new, only added to Debian in early 2024)
* lollypop
- Hosted on GNOME Gitlab, but not GNOME Circle
- popcon: more than amberol but still < 1K
(available since 2015, increased a lot in 2020)
- strongly relies on correct tagging
If we do choose to install something by default, it can either be Depends
or Recommends. Given that we're seriously considering not having a
dependency at all, I think Recommends would be better.
I don't have a particularly strong opinion on this, but we do need some
sort of decision. At the moment I think my vote would be:
no default > gnome-music > rhythmbox > others
but I'm happy to be overruled on that, as long as there has been some
sort of choice and we're not just deciding based on inertia.
For now, I'm going to reduce gnome-music to a Recommends to make it easily
removable, and update
https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/meta-gnome3/-/merge_requests/10 to
reduce it further to a Suggests.
smcv
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Source: meta-gnome3
Source-Version: 1:49+1
Done: Jeremy Bícha <[email protected]>
We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
meta-gnome3, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
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Jeremy Bícha <[email protected]> (supplier of updated meta-gnome3 package)
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Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2025 19:06:19 +0200
Source: meta-gnome3
Built-For-Profiles: noudeb
Architecture: source
Version: 1:49+1
Distribution: experimental
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian GNOME Maintainers
<[email protected]>
Changed-By: Jeremy Bícha <[email protected]>
Closes: 1091863 1098707
Changes:
meta-gnome3 (1:49+1) experimental; urgency=medium
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[ Jeremy Bícha ]
* gnome-core: Follow GNOME and switch from evince to papers
(Closes: #1098707) and from totem to showtime
* gnome-core: Add Depends: totem-video-thumbnailer
* gnome: remove shotwell since loupe now has basic image editing
* Bump Standards Version to 4.7.2
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[ Simon McVittie ]
* gnome: Demote gnome-music from Recommends to Suggests.
GNOME Music is still part of the Core Apps module (at least for now),
but it isn't clear that it's desirable to install it by default when
a Debian GNOME desktop is installed. By demoting it to Suggests,
it will remain installed on upgraded systems but will not be part
of new installations.
(Closes: #1091863)
* d/control: Sort meta-gnome-core-apps in the same order as upstream
* d/control: Note divergences from upstream meta-gnome-core-apps,
meta-gnome-core-shell modulesets.
This makes it clearer which divergences are accidental (us not
keeping up with upstream changes) and which are intentional.
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