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and subject line Bug#1142730: fixed in debhelper 14.4
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regarding dh_installsystemduser: Debhelper 14 and restart all user services
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Package: debhelper
Version: 14.3
Severity: important
X-Debbugs-Cc: [email protected]
Control: affects -1 plasma-workspace
Control: block 1142512 by -1
Hey,
ISSUE
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We switched to Debhelper 14 we end up that plasma-workspace breaks for
several users (#1142512). The reason is that Debhleper 14 automatically
restarts user sservices. After investigating the issue we end up, that
it is a unhappy combination of dh_installsystemduser stanzas. And only
users running a X11 session while trigger the update are affected.
Three services have a [ install ] - section in their service file so
dh_installsystemduser enables those services. So far so good, that was
the default for Debhelper 13, too and never triggered an issue.
plasma-kcminit.service
plasma-ksmserver.service
plasma-plasmashell.service
With Debhelper 14 the automatic restart of all user services was added
(if they are running or enabled).
So because those three services are enabled in the first step, the
service restart behaviour now starts those services. In the end you get
a plasmashell on top of XFCE, not that expacted ;) Additionally for
users running a KDE Plasma on X11 will break their session. A restart on
wayland don't break anything, but never the less those three services
get started.
Maybe a unrelated issue I see is that the grep for a install section is too
simple to trigger enable of a service. At least plasma-kcminit.service
only has an alias in the install - section. From my understanding this
alias does not need any file or symlink to be created, to be useful, so
a enable stanza should not been added for this service.
THOUGHTS
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At least the start of unstarted services should not happen, if the target,
they are part of, is not started.
For me it looks unsafe to just restart any user service while upgrading
without asking the admin (who execute the upgrade).
At least on KDE Plasma uses a lot user services and restarting them may
break the Desktop, as seen here. Restarting gpg or wireplumber service
without consent is also not a good idea, as it breaks a working user.
Wouldn't be the proper solution in extending the "service restart dpkg
trigger" to care also about user services? This helper already knows
about outdated user services, that needs a restart.
Regards,
hefee
-- System Information:
Debian Release: forky/sid
APT prefers stable-updates
APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable-security'), (500,
'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (500, 'oldstable'), (100,
'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386
Kernel: Linux 7.1.3+deb14-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU threads; PREEMPT)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_WARN
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
LSM: AppArmor: enabled
Versions of packages debhelper depends on:
ii autotools-dev 20240727.1+nmu1
ii dh-autoreconf 22
ii dh-strip-nondeterminism 1.15.1-1
ii dpkg 1.23.7
ii dpkg-dev 1.23.7
ii dwz 0.17-1
ii file 1:5.47-4
ii libdebhelper-perl 14.3
ii libdpkg-perl 1.23.7
ii man-db 2.13.1-1
ii perl 5.40.1-8
ii po-debconf 1.0.22
debhelper recommends no packages.
Versions of packages debhelper suggests:
ii dh-make 2.202601
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--- Begin Message ---
Source: debhelper
Source-Version: 14.4
Done: Niels Thykier <[email protected]>
We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debhelper, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.
A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.
Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you
have further comments please address them to [email protected],
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.
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Niels Thykier <[email protected]> (supplier of updated debhelper package)
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2026 08:22:22 +0000
Source: debhelper
Architecture: source
Version: 14.4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debhelper Maintainers <[email protected]>
Changed-By: Niels Thykier <[email protected]>
Closes: 114716 1142220 1142577 1142730 1144222
Changes:
debhelper (14.4) unstable; urgency=medium
.
[ Jeremy Bícha ]
* meson: Use meson install --no-rebuild by default for compat 14+
(Closes: #1142577)
.
[ Athos Ribeiro ]
* Improve automated substvar injection documentation
.
[ Charles Plessy ]
* Note that `dh_installdocs` does not copy empty files.
.
[ Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues ]
* autoscripts/postinst-init-nostart: missing DPKG_ROOT
.
[ Niels Thykier ]
* dh_installsystemduser: Avoid warnings when unit is declared unrestartable
* dh_computeautosubstvars: Improve auto-detection for Commands field
(Closes: #114716)
* Revert "Remove mention of `single-binary` from compat 15 - it happens in
14"
* Improve warning message for implicit `single-binary` addon.
Thanks to Andrey Rakhmatullin <[email protected]> and
Jeremy Bicha <[email protected]> (Closes: #1144222)
.
[ Luca Boccassi ]
* upgrade-checklist: update note on user units handling (Closes: #1142730)
.
[ Américo Monteiro ]
* Update on Portuguese translation of the man pages (Closes: #1142220)
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