Hi Dmitrij,

First of all thank you for picking up the maintenance of this package.
It is non-trivial.

On 01/06/12 01:57, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> Hi Dmitrijs,
> 
> I'd like to thank you for your care for the 'autofs' package
> but please excuse me for expressing my non-appreciation of your NMU.
> 

I have cancelled it due to bug that Jakub Wilk expressed.

> Although perhaps not fast enough we're working on 'autofs' - we have a
> team of three and a different fix to the problem is already committed
> to repository.
> 

The changelog entry says:
" * declare myself as Maintainer (adopting package)"

And the control says, that there is one maintainer & one uploader.

Please, either change the maintainer to a team, or list all people on
the team.

Please, set Vcs-* fields as per:
 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-vcs

If the fix has been committed to Vcs-*, you should set the 'pending' tag
on the bug.

Correct Vcs-* headers, together with the pending tag would allowed me to
find the patches I was looking for.

> I do believe the pressure you impose with your NMU is unnecessary
> because simply asking or sharing your suggestions in email to any of
> us would be better.
> 

True. I'm sorry for putting you in the spotlight. We are days away from
the freeze, the package has RC bugs and did not transition to testing
yet. I do not want to release wheezy without autofs. There is pressure
from the release team.

> Friendly discussion is always preferable to aggressive pushing of your
> implementation over the shoulders of active maintainers who at least
> trying to discuss changes between themselves.
> 

From the changelog, I understood that there was only one maintainer who
did ample of work to update the package.

RC http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=673796 has no
response from maintainer. Do you have a patch committed to some private
Vcs repository?

RC http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674391 has no
response from maintainer. And you say you do have a patch ready.

Who sponsored your upload? Because bug #674391 is Fail To Build From
Source (in a sane manner) filed the day after the upload. Autoconf was
last updated on 2012-05-12. Did the package FTBFS (in a sane manner) on
the upload?


> Also I'm sure you're aware that I'm not a DD, so to override your NMU
> I must complete changes for new release and find a sponsor within 5
> days only.
> 

I am aware that you are not a DD.
To cancel an NMU you only need to get any DD to 'sponsor' this one line:

"dcut ftp-eu cancel autofs_5.0.6-1.1_amd64.changes"

Nobody is forcing you to complete changes for a new release in an
unreasonable quick amount of time.

I am sure anyone from #debian-mentors would have done it, if it was not
already done by me.

Do you have a DD in your team of three people to review and sponsor
packages?


> You're welcome to the team if you want to help but please consider
> first to communicate whatever improvements you might have and then
> perhaps sponsor the existing effort rather than override it with
> premature NMU.
> 

Yes, I do want to be part of the team.

Do you have a team setup on alioth with a Vcs repository and mailing
list? Or do you want help to set this up?

Improvements I want to achieve: This package to migrate to testing.
This means:
* fix FTBFS in a sane way
* fix FTBFS with gold / ld --as-needed
* fix conf file upgrade handling


> Meanwhile I'll do my best to address the problem ASAP.
> 

Great.
* Please comment on the bugs that are being worked on.
* Please attach the patch to the BTS or point to VCS where this patch is
available.
* Please tag pending, if a solution for the bug is found and it will be
part of the next upload.

Above action, would have prevented spending me time doing duplicate work
in a different time zone.

> Thank you.
> 

Thank you for you contributions to debian. I hope you will keep up the
excellent work you are doing with this package. But please do fix the
issues with the package I have outlined above.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitrijs.



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