On Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:47:48 +0200
Ricardo Mones <mo...@debian.org> wrote:

> > While writing an email that'd been open in the background 
> > for a while, (hours), I clicked the 'Attach' button, and 
> > sylpheed vanished -- as in ceased running. ...
> 
> If you did an upgrade of gvfs while sylpheed was open that could be
> the reason. The workaround is simple: restart session. Otherwise you
> should try to get a backtrace. Anyway doesn't look like a Sylpheed
> bug.

Thanks for the reply.

In review, to verify I understand correctly.  You suggest the cause of
'sylpheed' unexpectedly quitting might be a side effect of something
that happens only during a background 'gvfs' upgrade, and probably
happens because of a 'gvfs' upgrade.  (This is plausible, since I
usually have a 'sylpheed' window open, and I also run system upgrades
regularly.)

Supposing that's not a 'sylpheed' bug, would it therefore follow that it
must be a 'gvfs' bug?

I probably should check my '/var/log/dpkg.log' circa 4/10/12 (when
this bug was first reported).  Hmm, that date's been logrotated, and
today it'd be here:

        -rw-r--r-- 1 148461 May  1 04:16 /var/log/dpkg.log.2.gz

Grepping that, it seems there were some upgrades to 'gvfs' version
1.12.0-1 before 4/10/12: 

        % zgrep gvfs /var/log/dpkg.log.2.gz | grep " status installed " \ 
           | grep "2012-04-[01][07-9]"
        2012-04-08 20:38:54 status installed gvfs-common:all 1.12.0-1
        2012-04-08 20:38:54 status installed gvfs-libs:i386 1.12.0-1
        2012-04-08 20:38:55 status installed gvfs-daemons:i386 1.12.0-1
        2012-04-08 20:38:56 status installed gvfs:i386 1.12.0-1
        2012-04-08 20:38:56 status installed gvfs-backends:i386 1.12.0-1

What versions of 'gvfs' were installed before then?  'gvfs' v1.10.1-3:

        % zgrep gvfs /var/log/dpkg.log.2.gz | grep " status installed " \
             | grep "2012-0[1-4]-" | grep -m 1 -B 10 "1.12.0-1"
        2012-04-02 13:30:27 status installed gvfs-common:all 1.10.1-3
        2012-04-02 13:30:27 status installed gvfs-libs:i386 1.10.1-3
        2012-04-02 13:30:28 status installed gvfs-daemons:i386 1.10.1-3
        2012-04-02 13:30:29 status installed gvfs:i386 1.10.1-3
        2012-04-02 20:35:34 status installed gvfs-backends:i386 1.10.1-3
        2012-04-08 20:38:54 status installed gvfs-common:all 1.12.0-1

Hypothesis:  to reproduce, we'd have 'gvfs' v1.10.1-3 installed, then
run 'sylpheed' v3.2.0~beta6-1, keeping the latter open during a
background upgrade to 'gvfs' v1.12.0-1; after the upgrade, with
'sylpheed' still open, try to attach a file to a message.  I don't
recollect which file I was trying to attach.  Would the file's
directory need to be overseen by 'gvfs' to be relevant?



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