Hi Yves-Alexis,

On Mon, 2012-06-25 at 11:17 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

> I noticed your upload of the latest Grsecurity patches to Debian. While I
> would very much like to have decent Grsecurity support in Debian, I'm not
> quite sure this package, in the current state, really helps that (I'm not sure
> shipping the patch itself makes sense anyway).
 Users without decent internet connection may need this.

> Right now, the documentation mentions dh-kpatches and make-kpkg, and implies
> the patch could be applied to the Debian sources. That's just wrong.
 No, please see README.2.4.2x . It states that since 2003, it just won't
apply to Debian kernels. First you have to unpatch the Debian
modifications.

> Right now, the only difference with downloading upstream sources directly
> seems to be that you lack the GPG signature.
 Again no, please see the source package, which contains the GPG signatures.

> I guess you might want to tune the package, either to adapt it to debian
> sources, or to properly document how to build the kernel (replacing make-kpkg
> by make deb-pkg for example), or maybe something else.
 Maybe the package needs a tool added, which build the vanilla kernel
with grsecurity applied.

> But I'm afraid right now the package, although now up2date, is just useless
> and confusing for users.
 What do you propose? Drop make-kpkg stuff and add an own build tool?

> Sorry if the tone is a bit rude, it's not intended, I'm very much interested
> in ways to improve Grsecurity support in Debian.
 Until we can discuss the views of the package, I don't count it as
rude. Please note that it would require way too much expertise and time
to always merge Debian changes with grsecurity. All in all, I think
SELinux is more common if you need restrictions on your Linux OS.

Regards,
Laszlo/GCS




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