>From the IRC meeting: > * ACTION: dondelelcaro to follow this up with the gnome maintainers to > get a clear argument from the GNOME maintainers about why this > *must* be a depends and not a recommends (dondelelcaro, 18:08:51)
I don't know if this was followed up, but there still doesn't seem to be any such clear argument as far as I'm aware. Here is a revised version of my draft resolution. I have incorporated all the comments and weakened and/or removed the "political" paragraphs dealing with the maintainers' behaviour. The only comment I have rejected is the one suggesting a smaller version of what is now para.8. I have introduced a new para.4 mentioning the lack of convincing reasons for the dependency. Is there anyone who is unhappy with the draft below ? Ian. Whereas 1. The TC notes the decision of the meta-gnome maintainers to implement our decision in #681834 by: (a) softening the dependency in the gnome-core metapackage from Depends to Recommends, as required (b) adding a new dependency in the gnome metapackage, as a Depends. (In squeeze, this is where the dependency was, but it was a Recommends.) 2. Our intent, as stated in the rationale section of our previous decision (#681834, paras 3 and 5), is that squeeze users who have gnome installed but not network-manager do not find that network-manager becomes installed when they upgrade to wheey. 3. The actions of the meta-gnome maintainers do not achieve this objective. 4. Insofar as any reasons have been advanced for the meta-gnome maintainer's decision, we do not find them convincing. 5. A Recommends from gnome to network-manager-gnome would serve no purpose in wheezy as gnome Depends on gnome-core which already Recommends network-manager-gnome. Therefore 6. We overrule the decision of the meta-gnome maintainers to add a dependency from gnome to network-manager-gnome. This dependency should be removed. 7. We request that the Release Team unblock update(s) to meta-gnome so that our decisions may be implemented in wheezy. 8. We specifically forbid anyone from introducing in wheezy, or in sid until wheezy is released: a. Any new or enhanced dependencies, or any other mechanisms, which increase the likelihood of network-manager being installed; b. Any new or enhanced user-facing warnings, imprecations, or other kinds of message regarding the alleged desirability or requirement to install network-manager; c. Any change which in any way impairs (or further impairs) the functioning of systems with GNOME components installed but without network-manager; d. Any change which is contrary to the spirit or intent of either our previous resolution in #681834 or this resolution. without first obtaining the permission of at least one member of the Technical Committee. Furthermore 9. It is disappointing that this proposed solution to the problem was not mentioned during the TC discussion. If it had been, it could have been accepted or rejected by the TC at the time. 10. We remind everyone that the Constitution requires members of the project not to work against decisions properly made according to the project's governance processes. On this occasion we do not feel it necessary to refer anyone to the Debian Account Managers asking for a review of their status. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org